Wait. So they knew he didn’t do it, but they executed him anyway?
等等。所以他们明明知道人不是他杀的,还是把他给处决了?
OsoCheco5,011 赞2021/11/8
The only evidence against him was his confession. Even the murderer said he never saw him.
唯一针对他的证据就是他的口供。连那个杀人犯都说从来没见过他。
Empyrealist2,855 赞2021/11/8
The murderer as well as the survivor both said he wasn't seen there.
杀人犯和幸存者都说在现场没见过他。
nightman0081,896 赞2021/11/9
Makes sense to kill him then
那杀了他确实说得通。
Stealfur1,195 赞2021/11/9
Right? Cant have invisible killers walking the street.
对吧?总不能让隐形杀手在街上乱晃。
frenchtoasttaco160 赞2021/11/9
Don’t want to let on to everyone that you made a mistake so go ahead and fry the guy
反正不想让大家看出你搞砸了,那就干脆把那家伙给电死(或处死)吧。
cheesegoat108 赞2021/11/9
Omg I feel so bad laughing at this
天呐,我真觉得自己笑出声来特别缺德。
--Splendor-Solis--130 赞2021/11/9
It's a two for one, just good efficiency
这叫一箭双雕,纯属高效操作。
NothingsShocking69 赞2021/11/9
“Well we already bought this extra lethal injection dose, we shouldn’t let it go to waste”
“反正这剂致命注射液都多买出来了,咱们也不能浪费不是。”
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Lethal injection didn't happen until 1977, he got a bullet or the chair would be my guess.
1977年才开始有注射死刑,我猜他当时要么是吃了颗枪子儿,要么是坐了电椅。
TVsKevin59 赞2021/11/9
According to the article on Wikipedia, he was executed in the gas chamber.
根据维基百科上的文章,他是被关进毒气室处决的。
krakenftrs50 赞2021/11/9
Executing the mentally disabled in gas chambers, that's a great look
在毒气室里处决智障人士,这画面真特么绝了。
NotMyHersheyBar57 赞2021/11/9
This happens to disabled people. We are the scapegoat. We have legal protections now but not social protections. I've been fired so many times for being autistic just because I'm weird, even when my work is documented as exemplary, bc in an at will state, they don't need a reason.
did he just 'admit' that he was guilty then because I couldn't understand any of it? dam what a sad way to go.
他刚才是不是“承认”自己有罪了?我反正是一句都没听懂。妈呀,这结局也太惨了。
mehvet717 赞2021/11/9
It’s well known that false confessions can be obtained through various interrogation techniques. Especially when dealing with a person that lacks proper representation and has mental deficiencies. Never talk to the police about anything, just say lawyer till you get one and let them talk.
There’s a great old school video on YouTube by a lawyer called “don’t talk to the police” he’s giving a lecture to future lawyers and shows how even the brightest person that means well can easily implicate themselves. Every now and then it’s a good video to watch to remind yourself. Edit in case anyone is interested https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
Top notch watch but absolutely lost my shit when he said "be thankful you're in the United States and not in Italy or Spain, there's no police abuse there, they can do what they want" That's histerical coming from an American cop.
Unless he was talking about the 40s when they were both fascist states lol
除非他说的是40年代,那时候这俩国家都是法西斯政权,哈哈。
Yalado26 赞2021/11/9
Spaniard here, I can confirm still today cops get away even with dead suspects. Only cases they was found guilty was because they was stupid enough to film the abuses and the video was leaked to the public, so it would be too obvious. Even in that cases, they are pardoned once media stop talking about them.
> "be thankful you're in the United States and not in Italy or Spain I was in Rome in mid december 2019 and was being harassed by this African immigrant trying to pick my pocket. I shoved him and he flicked a pocket knife, anyways an undercover plain clothes cabineri saw and asked me what I had done. At first I was defensive, but then told him that the dude tried to rob me, he went over there with 3 other Cabineri/police and they beat him with blackjacks. He was like 14. A couple days later we were in the Metro. The english ticket touch screen wasn't working and we were slowly trying to navigate our way to buying 2 subway passes. This Roma/Gypsy girl showed us but kept adding a ticket, we were like no we only want two, not realizing she wanted one. A police officer came over grabbed her threw here away and smacked her while doing that Italian language gobblydegook where they raise their voices and use their hands. He backhanded her several times, my wife and I got the fuck out of there. So uh yeah that shit has never happened to us here.
Not even necessary. Badgering a person in a stressful situation can cause them to begin to doubt themselves. Police are well within their rights to lie during interrogation too. They can claim to have evidence they don’t which confuses exhausted or mentally slow people into doubting things they know. Some people will begin to feel helpless and believe that giving the authority figure in the room what they want, a confession, is their best way forward. Good police work would avoid these tactics in favor of finding the actual criminal, too often they just want a way to close the case though.
i hate that "a 14 year old boy was executed by law" is all you need to know he was black.
我真讨厌这一点:只要你说出“一个14岁男孩被法律处决了”,大家立马就能猜到他肯定是个黑人。
cortthejudge9734 赞2021/11/9
Yes but not so much in a "rip toenails off" way but like I'll keep you in a room and question you for 12 hours straight with no sleep rest or food type thing
The Chicago PD had a special torture facility, apparently, but they could've just used it for pleasure.
芝加哥警局竟然有个专门搞刑讯的鬼地方,不过说真的,他们本来完全可以把它当成游乐场用的。
secondarycontrol1,006 赞2021/11/8
After an hour and a half of questioning, Carroll called a reporter and told him that he had just received a complete confession for the Pueblo crime from Arridy. **He recited to at least one reporter a long series of wordy, complete sentences that Arridy purportedly uttered. According to Carroll, Arridy was the lone killer and he committed the crime with a club.** At first, when Pueblo Police Chief J. Arthur Grady received news of the confession, he was shocked. The real killer, Frank Aguilar, a former WPA worker who had been supervised by the Drain girls’ father, had already been arrested for the crime. **Aguilar had been arrested during the funeral of Dorothy Drain. The Pueblo police had even recovered the weapon used in the crime. It was the head of a hatchet with nicks that matched the wounds on the girls**. The Pueblo police kept all this evidence in silence because Aguilar vehemently denied committing the crime. [Following that, Sheriff Carroll changed his story. After conducting another interrogation, **he then reported to the press that a hatchet—not a club**—was used in the crime. He also claimed that Arridy did not do the crime alone. According to Carroll, Arridy said he did it “with Frank.”](http://www.executedtoday.com/tag/george-carroll/)
This is why moral conscious is important for human kind as a whole
这就是为什么道德良知对整个人类来说至关重要。
Alan_Smithee_43 赞2021/11/9
Also why the death penalty is wrong.
这也是死刑为什么是错的理由。
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It’s lazy policing in this situation. Often what happened with all the falsely accused black men was commonly cold cases force solved. It’s racism mixed with lazy.
This right here is why the the death penalty should be abolished. Even if the system worked perfectly it would still be questionable. And the system is far from perfect.
It occurs to me that so many people complain about the incompetence of the govt when they say " that's why we shouldn't have more services!! The govt can't run things properly!!" Well then surely you don't want the govt in the business of *death* right?... Right?
That's one of the biggest things the government deals in.
那可是政府最擅长的“业务”之一了。
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Yeah I believe it is known as the "monopoly on violence*". Only the government has the legal right to take life. * Corrected the term to violence
对,我相信这就是所谓的“暴力垄断”。只有政府才拥有剥夺生命的合法权利。
*已纠正用词为“暴力”
dexmonic101 赞2021/11/9
What do you mean? It did work perfectly. A piece of shit cop perfectly got to implicate an innocent man for ambiguous reasons. And despite everyone knowing it was bullshit, they perfectly went along with it because...well, because. Edit: reading more about it, the sheriff was using the whole trial as a publicity stunt. He didn't give a shit if the wrong guy was implicated in fact he seemed to rather enjoy it as long as he got to be in the news.
>On August 26, 1936, Arridy was arrested for vagrancy in Cheyenne, Wyoming, after being caught wandering around the railyards. The county sheriff, George Carroll, was aware of the widespread search for suspects in the Drain murder case. When Arridy revealed under questioning that he had traveled through Pueblo by way of a train after leaving Grand Junction, Colorado, Carroll began to question him about the Drain case. Carroll said that Arridy confessed to him.[6] >When Carroll contacted the Pueblo police chief Arthur Grady about Arridy, he learned that they had already arrested a man considered to be the prime suspect: Frank Aguilar, a laborer from Mexico. Aguilar had worked for the father of the Drain girls and been fired shortly before the attack. An ax head was recovered from Aguilar's home.[6] But Sheriff Carroll claimed that Arridy told him several times he had "been with a man named Frank" at the crime scene.[6] >Aguilar later confessed to the crime and told police he had never seen or met Arridy. Aguilar was also convicted of the rape and murder of Dorothy Drain and sentenced to death. He was executed in 1937.[3][7] >After being transported to Pueblo, Arridy reportedly confessed again.[8] >When the case was finally taken to trial, Arridy's lawyer pled insanity to spare his client's life. Arridy was ruled to be sane, while acknowledged by three state psychiatrists to be so mentally limited as to be classified as an "imbecile", a medical term at the time. They said he had an IQ of 46, and the mind of a six-year-old.[6] They noted he was "incapable of distinguishing between right and wrong, and therefore, would be unable to perform any action with a criminal intent".[1][2] >Arridy was convicted, largely because of his false confession.[6] Studies since that time have shown that persons of limited mental capacity are more vulnerable to coercion during interrogation and have a higher frequency of making false confessions. **There was no physical evidence against him. Barbara Drain had testified that Aguilar had been present at the attack, but not Arridy. She could identify Aguilar because he had worked for her father**. [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arridy) They railroaded him, executed him *and* executed the real murderer, too.
The whole thing goes from sad to angry really quickly for me when you have police officers like Carroll who are just dying to point their finger at *anyone*.
A 200% conviction rate on that case, not too shabby..
那起案子定罪率居然有200%,真有你的,牛啊……
PlethoPappus215 赞2021/11/8
Simply to save face because they just can't be wrong. Ever.
说白了就是为了死要面子,因为他们根本就不可能犯错。从来不可能。
MaesterKupo118 赞2021/11/8
I wonder if the sheriff ever faced any punishment for this. He murdered someone. Specifically a mentally challenged individual.
我真纳闷那个警长有没有因为这事儿受过什么惩罚。他可是杀了一个人啊。而且杀的还是个智力障碍人士。
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ocdscale51 赞2021/11/9
> he was widely regarded as a hero for his arrest of Arridy Explains why he kept doubling down and refused to admit he was wrong. This is just so infuriating.
You should check out the [santanic panic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic#United_States) in the 80s. There are people still in prison based on the testimony of children under hypnosis, who also testified that there were elaborate tunnels under the daycare complete with sacrificial table (no tables or tunnels were ever found inspite ) that they witnessed several of the day care's children scarified( no bodies were found, or indeed missing children were reported) other toddlers were flushed won toilets to magical room (I could use a toilet that could flush a whole toddler after taco night) and that they say the alleged abusers fly on brooms across the sky. So totally realistic testimony.
I'm an atheist, but sometimes I wish Hell existed so this guy could be burning in it.
我是个无神论者,但有时候真希望地狱是真实存在的,这样这货就能在里面受刑了。
shingdao30 赞2021/11/9
Punishment? This was late 1930s in Wyoming, the sheriff was considered a hero at the time. Arridy was not the first mentally incapacitated person to be executed and, sadly, won't be the last.
Yes, but the Sheriff is not the justice. How could the court mess this up so badly?
是啊,但警长又不是正义的化身。法庭是怎么能把案子搞得这么离谱的?
Epistaxis86 赞2021/11/8
Juries and judges believe cops, and even skeptical prosecutors can't afford to harm their relationship.
陪审团和法官都信警察,即便是心存怀疑的检察官也得顾全大局,不敢轻易破坏这种合作关系。
The_Original_Gronkie18 赞2021/11/9
A small town jury will do what they're told, especially back then.
小地方的陪审团只会听命行事,尤其是当年那种环境下。
TangentiallyTango23 赞2021/11/9
This is why you never, never, never talk to the police. Some shit-stain cop might just decide he likes you for it.
这就是为什么你千万、千万、千万别跟警察废话。指不定哪个烂人警察看你不顺眼,就随手把你给坑了。
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Protect and serve baby
保护和服务,宝贝儿。
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When the police testify it's often called testilying by the police themselves. Justice isn't the point, "results" is. This is why so many black Americans didn't trust the OJ trial at all. If the LAPD hadn't lied and planted evidence while trying to convict a black man of murder it would be remarkable for it's rarity. Same for Jussie Smollett and his fake assault claims. Why believe the police when they lie constantly?
Florida now keeps a list of police officers who are not allowed to testify in court because they have been proven to lie in the past. It's a very short list, and it's big fight whenever they want to add a other cop to the list.
Pretty much every DAs office has a list like this, some are more open about it than others.
几乎每个地方的检察官办公室都有类似的黑名单,有些藏着掖着,有些倒是挺直白。
cursingsum9123 赞2021/11/8
Thank you for going into detail
感谢你讲得这么详细。
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wait so frank was actually executed two years BEFORE Joe, and Joe was still executed for the same crime? God damn. and here I was thinking I didnt need to cry today.
等等,所以 Frank 其实在 Joe 被处决的两年前就已经被处决了,然后 Joe 居然还因为同一桩罪行被处决了?我靠,简直丧尽天良。
本来还以为我今天不用哭的。
slouchingtoepiphany33 赞2021/11/8
Thanks for the story, it sounds like the police, prosecutor, judge, and jury were themselves murderers for killing an innocent man. Edit: I mixed up the people in the picture. Corrected.
Sounds a little like the Amanda Knox case in Italy. They had a guy in custody with a history of violence, and his DNA on the victim, who had confessed - but no they also had to invent a satanic sex cult too in order to prosecute the yank and her boyfriend too.
His confession was coerced and his conviction wasn't overturned despite several appeals; his mental deficiency; the confession of the actual perpetrator; one of the victims (Dorothy's sister) saying Arridy wasn't even there; and no physical evidence connecting Arridy to the crime scene. All due to a morally corrupt sherrif who likely wanted his 5 minutes of fame.
this brings me to the brandon dassey 'confession'. Good lord that series frustrated the hell out of me. (making a murderer). I'll grant stephen avery is creepy and very well could've done it but there was more than enough chicanery from the police dept to get a mistrial.
It's beyond infuriating to me that Dassey's testimony was thrown out as evidence in Avery's trial, and yet Dassey was still convicted and sent to prison. Not to mention our POS attorney general at the time (I'm from Wisconsin) did everything in his power to keep Dassey from being released back to his family after several appeals. He's spent most of his life in prison for a crime everyone knows he didn't commit. It's horrific what they've done to him.
> morally corrupt sherrif But you repeat yourself.
> 道德败坏的治安官
你这话不是废话吗(你说重了)。
OsoCheco2,140 赞2021/11/8
He was finally pardoned in 2011. A little offtopic, I just recalled, in one of the Simpsons episode, a canadian citizen wisches to visit US to see an execution of grown man with the inteligence of small child. I wonder whether it wasn't reference to Joe Arridy.
A pardon for those like him along with systemic change to make sure this can't happen again would be a humbling gesture. But if it was just a pardon and maybe a speech then yeah, empty af.
It matters because it sets precedent for similar future cases. It acknowledges “yeah we screwed up on this one.” Which is the right thing to do. And it gives future defenses of similar cases a better reason to seek presidential pardon. And largely I think the system has improved since then. Not guilty by reason of insanity is a valid plea.
It was a Governor who pardoned, not the president. And precedence isn't enough. We should be actively seeking out these cases that happened and fixing them.
It is currently illegal to execute anyone with intellectual disabilities (IQ<75) in all 50 states. Look up *Atkins vs. Virginia*
目前在全美50个州,处决任何患有智力障碍(IQ<75)的人都是违法的。去查查《阿特金斯诉弗吉尼亚州案》(Atkins vs. Virginia)就知道了。
keenreefsmoment16 赞2021/11/9
Looks like I’m safe 😎😎 you noob
看来我是安全的 😎😎 你这菜鸟。
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They took his life and everything else away from him. His name and this story was all that was left of him 72 years later. A pardon in this sense is just a bandage; as the damage is done, but let it be a sign as to refrain from spitting on his name.
>He was finally pardoned in 2011. So much good it did.
>他最终在2011年获得了赦免。
有个屁用啊。
yourlastchance89342 赞2021/11/8
There's been a few. Clinton oversaw the execution of a man who had the mental capacity of a small child. This was in the 90s when he was governor of Arkansas. The man was shot by police in the head. They saved his life in the hospital only for him to be executed later. He would always save his dessert for later while imprisoned. Before his execution he gave his dessert to his lawyers to hold on to for him so he could consume it later, completely unaware of what was about to happen to him.
Very different case. Rector was actually guilty and was mentally incapacitated in a shootout with police when he falsely agreed to turn himself in. He was mentally capable at the time the crime was committed. Not saying it was correct to execute him, its all kinds of fucked up. But it isnt the same kind of fucked up.
It sounds like he still was not competent to stand trial. Unless I’m mistaken, the burden of competency isn’t solely on whether the defendant was competent during the commission of a crime. They need to be competent to stand trial
There is a broader philosophical question which the system doesn't want to hear about whether you would be meaningfully prosecuting the same person who committed the crime.
I'm not in favour of the death penalty at all but I think that situation is a little different because it sounds to me like the injury he sustained during his arrest is what gave hi the mental incapacity which would suggest he was fully culpable for the crime he committed, unlike this story.
But fully incapable to stand trial. That’s the issue here. We’re not supposed to put on trial those who are mentally incompetent to the point of not even understanding why they’re on trial or how to appropriately defend themselves during the trial.
In which case he’s no longer capable of committing such a crime so why still execute him?
照这么说,他现在都已经没能力再犯那种罪了,那还处决他干嘛?
gentlemandinosaur46 赞2021/11/8
Revenge. Oh, I mean Justice. Sorry I said the wrong word.
复仇。
哦,我的意思是正义。抱歉,词儿说错了。
rwhitisissle27 赞2021/11/8
> I wonder whether it wasn't reference to Joe Arridy. It's probably a reference to the MANY times our justice system has actively executed the severely mentally handicapped for crimes they didn't commit. By this point, it's honestly a trope. Hell, you know it can't be all that rare if Stephen King wrote a goddamn book about it.
Just taken from Wikipedia;
While held on death row during the appeals process, Arridy often played with a toy train, given to him by prison warden Roy Best. The warden said that Arridy was "the happiest prisoner on death row".He was liked and treated well by both the prisoners and guards alike. Best became one of Arridy's supporters and joined the effort to save his life; he was said to have "cared for Arridy like a son", regularly bringing him gifts. Before Arridy's execution, he said, "He probably didn't even know he was about to die, all he did was happily sit and play with a toy train I had given him."
Fuck me that’s sad
Why did people like that sub? It’s not like watching people being murdered or mutilated will make someone feel better.
为什么会有人喜欢那种版块?看别人被谋杀或是肢解,又不会让人感觉好受点。
Tranquilcobra20 赞2021/11/9
I used to frequently go there back when I was incredibly depressed, actually seeing how painful dying can be kept me from doing it. The community was also very friendly and respectful.
I was an angsty traumatized teenager intent to traumatize myself further. Regret going on there so much.
那会儿我就是个愤世嫉俗、满身创伤的青少年,一心只想让自己受更多的伤。真后悔当时逛那地方逛得那么勤。
groovy_giraffe19 赞2021/11/9
That’s a fair way to put it. I also browsed that sub (very very briefly as I was already early 20s by the time I made a Reddit) and rotten dot com as a confused and traumatized teen. Thing is, as a youngster I didn’t know I was traumatized and therefore somehow assumed it was “normal” to view such things. Long long ago I turned away and focused more on my actual self, I think it was love that made me realize. My wife and I have been together 15 years now and in order to make commitment like that work you have to sacrifice your sense of self to reforge into each other (2 become 1) and in order to do that you must first recast yourself as something you capable of understanding and therefore altering.
It actually does make me feel better. I was in a hard ass depression for years and when I got suicidal I’d look at these kinds of videos that show me what true death is and to treasure my life because these people weren’t able too. It worked to keep my thoughts of suicide at bay for years until I got some help.
This is why I am against the death penalty for any crime except treason. Life in Prison is arguably worse than execution, and more importantly allowing the death penalty is a slippery slope that makes it *easier* for tragedies like the above to happen. Banning the death penalty wouldn't be a panacea, but hopefully it would help make unjust executions more rare.
Out of curiosity, why do you make an exception for treason?
好奇问一下,为什么你要把叛国罪列为例外?
freehouse_throwaway47 赞2021/11/9
Welp I'm done with this thread.
哎,这楼我不跟了。
SleepDeprivedUserUK903 赞2021/11/9
[Joe Arridy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arridy), and [George Stinney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stinney) are perhaps two of the most cruel executions to have gone forward. Not physically cruel; executions have gone wrong, and people have suffered terribly, but certainly needlessly cruel. An obviously mentally challenged man, and a black child convicted by an all-white jury.
Look up Carol chessman. Three strikes and he got the death penalty, but he was only a crook. He was accused and convicted for rape, but after the fact the victim said she didn't really think it was him and was part of his clemency campaign. The book, "when you read this, they'll have killed me." is haunting.
去查查卡里尔·切斯曼(Carol Chessman)。这哥们儿因为“三振出局法”被判了死刑,但他其实就是个小混混。他被指控并因强奸罪定罪,但事后受害者表示她觉得根本不是他干的,还参与了他的减刑运动。那本书《当你读到这段文字时,他们已经杀了我》(When you read this, they'll have killed me.)真的让人毛骨悚然。
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So was Joe Arridy. Tbh it doesn't matter if they were guilty or innocent. It shouldn't have happened either way. There was no real evidence in either case and neither was mentally fit to be put to death (not disparaging George Stinney's intelligence; but a 14 year old is FAR too young to be interrogated by the police and for their "confession" to be treated as true. Kids are easily swayed by adults. You can get a kid to confess to anything if you try hard enough)
Yup, the US has executed plenty of innocent folk. Strapped down, and shot, hanged, eletrocuted, or injected with chemicals to stop you breathing so you suffocate. U.S.A! U.S.A! It's like the PETA of the world.
PETA puts down more animals than any other shelter in the world. It's sort of a death camp for animals.
PETA 宰杀的动物比世界上任何一家收容所都要多。
这地方简直就是动物的集中营。
Pakrat_Miz49 赞2021/11/9
Don’t forget the kidnap pets from people and put them down within hours of the kidnappings Also they drowned hundreds of lobsters by putting them in the wrong kind of water (fresh or salt I forget which one the lobsters needed)
Seriously though, the amount of cases where people were exonerated just before their execution, or years later, suggests the USA kills far more innocent people than we know for sure.
From the wikipedia page on George Stinney: "A re-examination of Stinney's case began in 2004, and several individuals and the Northeastern University School of Law sought a judicial review. Stinney's conviction was vacated in 2014, seventy years after he was executed, when a court ruled that he had not received a fair trial, effectively clearing his name." Welp at least his name was cleared 70 years after his execution. That's all that really matters. /s
Was the green mile based on this? That’s exactly what happens in the green mile.
《绿里奇迹》是根据这个改编的吗?电影里发生的事儿简直一模一样。
Crowbarmagic221 赞2021/11/8
When I learned about this case I suspected Stephen King might have been inspired by it. An inmate on death row who kind of has the innocence and intelligence as that of a kid (and didn't do it).
The killer also worked for the parents of the victims which is what Sam Rockwells character did
那个杀手也给受害者的父母打工,这跟山姆·洛克威尔饰演的角色干的事情一模一样。
Farva8524 赞2021/11/9
In the movie... it was a book first, and very good read to boot.
在电影里……其实原著是本小说,而且是一本非常值得一读的好书。
jillkimberley16 赞2021/11/9
One of the few instances where the movie was actually better than the book.
为数不多的电影比原著还要好看的例子之一。
AmazingRise106 赞2021/11/8
Same thing I was thinking. King must've been inspired by this.
我也正这么想呢。斯蒂芬·金肯定是受了这部的启发。
TuskaTheDaemonKilla64 赞2021/11/8
The sad thing is that there's enough situations like this that King might not have been inspired by this specific one.
可悲的是,现实中类似的情况太多了,金大爷指不定根本就不是受这一件具体事件的启发。
Uruz2012gotdeleted15 赞2021/11/8
"Of Mice and Men" is a good fit for inspiration too.
《人鼠之间》用来当灵感来源也很合适。
shitheadsteve6460 赞2021/11/8
This is one of the very few stories that is hard for me to read.
这真的是极少数让我读起来很难受的故事之一。
cameron0511217 赞2021/11/8
Just think he had no idea what was happening he probably had no fear.
一想到他根本不知道发生了什么,估计当时他心里一点儿都不怕,我就……
shitheadsteve6179 赞2021/11/8
Yeah that's the scary part. He thought it was just going to another normal day, but had no clue that it was going to be his last day on Earth. It is also the face he is making in the picture, he is just so happy.
Yeah I get you. At least he probably wasn't scared in his final moments. Poor guy.
我懂你的意思。至少他在生命的最后时刻应该没怎么受惊吓。真可怜。
crackhitler149 赞2021/11/9
I don't think it was this story but reminds me of a mentally handicapped man who was sentenced to death and he ate his last meal along with 1 slice of pie from the pie he got. They asked him if he was going to finish ait and he said no I'm saving it for tomorrow. He literally didn't understand he was being put to death.
Somebody had told me this story before. As expected throughout his young life he was mistreated by his peers due to his mental condition. However while in prison he was treated good by the inmates, guards, and the warden who actually joined the fight to clear his name. The Warden was also the person who gave him the toy train as a gift.
This thought actually made me teary. Just imagine a person who lived a life so hard that his time in prison was the best part of it. A good natured 5 year old in the body of a grown man who managed to make hardened convicts and prison guards like him enough to treat him decently. For the first time in his life the people around him were nice to him, and he went to his own execution smiling. Jesus, sometimes I feel like the world isn't worth it.
“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.” Gandalf
I imagine this is part of why he got promoted after he died.
我猜这就是他死后还能升职的原因之一吧。
Duke-Lazarus40 赞2021/11/9
Totally off topic in this thread but.. This is one of the reasons why I like lord of the rings. The many smart/wise text like these which are being said. But when I rewatched the trilogy lately I watched it with the knowledge that Tolkien was a WW 1 veteran. Back before al those saying became used that much in movies. Gave me a interesting and good view of things. Not sure what’s the use of sharing this is, but your post reminded me of this. Wisdom is in the small things they say!
I just learned about this recently. It was a podcast titled "the happiest man on death row". It's very sad. Apparently the Warden befriended him, and even cared for him like his child. Many people tried to get him pardoned to no avail.
So am I reading this right? Approx 2 oz of drugs gets you hanged?
所以我是没看错吧?带个大概2盎司毒品就得被绞死?
Another_Idiot4206931 赞2021/11/9
They kill drug traffickers which is why there are no drugs there...well, except all the trafficked drugs
他们把毒贩都给宰了,所以那儿根本没毒品……嗯,除了所有那些走私进来的毒品之外。
DumpsterNatalie17 赞2021/11/9
As long as you’re caught with more than 0.5 oz (yes that’s half an ounce) of heroin there is a mandatory death sentence. The following is a list of drugs and the associated threshold for a mandatory execution in Singapore; * 1200 grams (42 oz) of opium and containing more than 30 grams (1 oz) of morphine
* 30 grams (1 oz) of morphine
* 15 grams (0.5 oz) of diamorphine (heroin)
* 30 grams (1 oz) of cocaine
* 500 grams (17 oz) of cannabis
* 1000 grams (35 oz) of cannabis mixture
* 200 grams (7 oz) of cannabis resin
* 250 grams (8 oz) of methamphetamine edit: added imperial units
Your title is pretty misleading. Arridy made a false confession and did not actually commit any crimes.
你的标题太有误导性了。Arridy 是做了虚假招供,他实际上根本没犯过任何罪。
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The title is completely accurate, not misleading at all. He *reportedly* made a confession after hours of interrogation by police. The timeline is a bit scrambled but I believe they already had the real killer in hand. Even if he confessed, the confession of an obviously mentally disabled person shouldn't count for anything. With his very limited mental capacity, it would be extremely easy to get him to confess to pretty much anything as long as he's verbal which it sounds like he was. The fact that pretty much anything he said should be seen as mostly just random rambling of a very disabled man should be evident quickly to anyone after an hour of discussion.
Another example why the death sentence is just wrong. Always was and always will be.
这又是一个证明死刑纯属错误的例子。过去是,将来也永远是。
Neubauer40145 赞2021/11/8
Is this what Green Mile’s based on?
这就是《绿里奇迹》的原型吗?
Treklow19 赞2021/11/8
I was thinking the exact same thing. That movie changed my perspective of death row.
我当时也是这么想的。那部电影彻底改变了我对死囚牢房的看法。
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Whoever forced the fake confession out of him, should've been sentenced to death. Fucking disgusting
无论是谁逼他做出的伪供,都该被判死刑。真他妈恶心。
cornerdweler29 赞2021/11/8
Why did he give away his train?
他为什么要送走他的小火车?
cameron051136 赞2021/11/8
I think it was a guard who felt bad for him and was nice to him.
我觉得是个守卫看他可怜,对他挺好的。
HeyesFTW29 赞2021/11/8
I cannot comprehend how many people failed him; even *if* there had been physical evidence of his part in the crime, he wasn't mentally capable of premeditation, or even understanding that his actions were criminal!
This guys life is so fucking sad it makes me wanna cry
这哥们儿的人生简直操蛋得让人想哭。
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Holy crap thats sad. Capital punishment is a disgrace.
天哪,这也太悲惨了。死刑简直就是一种耻辱。
CLxJames15 赞2021/11/9
The story behind this is sickening. Basically a DA looking to make a name for himself still wanted this man to be executed even though there was evidence uncovered that he had nothing to do with the crime [Video explanation](https://youtu.be/dcD_omEU1sk)
Man every time I see this it just breaks my heart.
天哪,每次看到这个我心都碎了。
AngelenoEsq13 赞2021/11/9
If a law violates one person's constitutional rights, it is unconstitutional to all. His 8th Amendment rights were violated as a matter of fact - state has admitted it. Why is the death penalty not unconstitutional to all from this? Edit: because we ain't ready for that conversation in this country...
You know it's a travesty when the prison warden himself joins the effort to save an inmate.
当监狱长本人都亲自加入营救囚犯的行列时,你就知道这事儿有多荒唐了。
wookies_go_raawghh8 赞2021/11/9
I looked up the story etc about this guy, it is one of the saddest things i ever read
我去查了这个人的相关故事等等,这绝对是我读过最让人心碎的事情之一。
aabum7 赞2021/11/9
A shining example that the system of justice which is criminal typically contains the worst criminals that society has to offer. As a society we deserve better. We need to exercise our right to hold accountable those who are in positions of authority.