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希特勒在镜子前排练演讲,由其私人摄影师海因里希·霍夫曼拍摄

希特勒在镜子前排练演讲,由其私人摄影师海因里希·霍夫曼拍摄

希特勒在镜子前排练演讲,由他的私人摄影师海因里希·霍夫曼拍摄于1925年。[1436x1600]

1925 · 32,635 赞 · 2021-05-31 · 105 条评论

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dion07073,339 赞2021/5/31
This photo looks like an expressionist film scene
这照片看起来就像表现主义电影里的场景。
EM_225197 赞2021/5/31
Well, they tried to convince Fritz Lang to work for them I guess that is another frustration for them
嗯,他们当时确实试图说服弗里茨·朗(Fritz Lang)为他们工作。 我猜这对他们来说又是一件挺糟心的事。
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Being part Jewish, he decided to GTFO instead.
毕竟他有犹太血统,所以他决定赶紧滚蛋。
terectec86 赞2021/5/31
as did like 90% of talented germans during that time
当时90%有才华的德国人都是这么干的。
bozeke67 赞2021/6/1
Interviewer: “Why is there not so much comedy in Germany?” Robin Williams: “Did you ever think it’s because you killed all of the funny people?” https://youtu.be/VF2P_LuEF80
采访者:“为什么德国的喜剧不太行?” 罗宾·威廉姆斯:“你有没有想过,可能是因为你们把所有有趣的人都给杀光了?” https://youtu.be/VF2P_LuEF80
DdCno172 赞2021/6/1
It's hard to overstate just how massive and long-lasting the brain drain was. Germany lost countless artists and scientists - and the profound effect this exodus had can be felt to this day.
那次人才流失规模之大、影响之深远,怎么强调都不为过。德国损失了数不清的艺术家和科学家——而这场大逃亡所造成的深远影响,直到今天仍能感受到。
lioncryable24 赞2021/6/1
> the profound effect this exodus had can be felt to this day. Can you go into detail here? Only thing I can think of is German movies mostly suck
> 这种大规模迁徙产生的深远影响至今仍能感受到。 你能详细讲讲吗?我唯一能想到的就是德国电影大多烂透了。
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German scientists helped with many many military/science projects including nukes
德国科学家在许多许多军事/科研项目中提供了帮助,包括核武器。
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I love critical theory and the philosophers of the Frankfurt School, Columbia University offered them their philosophy department and they all joined columbia before the holocaust took full swing
我很喜欢批判理论和法兰克福学派的哲学家们,哥伦比亚大学当时向他们提供了哲学系职位,他们在纳粹大屠杀全面展开之前就全都加入了哥大。
WideEyedWand3rer968 赞2021/5/31
"But the *real* enemy to our Reich... The *only* enemy to threaten the existence of our Aryan empire... Ladies and gentlemen... Is the perpetual passing of time, and the slow, inevitable swing of the Reaper's scythe!" *Gasps*
“但我们帝国真正的……敌人……唯一能威胁到我们雅利安帝国存亡的敌人……女士们,先生们……就是那永不停歇的时间流逝,以及死神镰刀那缓慢而不可避免的挥下!” *倒吸凉气*
postmodest225 赞2021/5/31
[main character puts ruger in mouth, sobs] “I’m sorry, Eva. I can taste the cordite that killed you. Oh god... I deserve this.” [BANG] FIN
[主角把鲁格手枪塞进嘴里,抽泣道] “对不起,伊娃。我尝到了杀死你的火药味。天呐……我活该。” [砰] 剧终
htx111460 赞2021/6/1
Ruger or Luger?
是鲁格(Ruger)还是鲁格(Luger)?
luger11486 赞2021/6/1
It was actually a walther
其实那是把瓦尔特(Walther)。
Confused_Imperial51 赞2021/6/1
Ru Ro Raggy! Put the Ruger in your mouth!
咯咯咯咯(鲁得罗·罗杰)!把那把鲁格(Ruger)塞你嘴里去!
ShotgunMongol31 赞2021/6/1
This is false. Ignoring the Ruger part because that's probably just autocorrect, the Germans did not use Cordite, that was British only, as they developed it for use as smokeless powder, which they then eventually used instead of Cordite.
这说法不对。先不提鲁格那部分,因为那大概只是自动纠错搞的鬼,德国人用的根本不是柯代特(Cordite)无烟火药,那是英国人的专利,因为德国人当时是把它当作无烟火药开发出来的,后来他们最终用的是无烟火药,而不是柯代特。
WarlockEngineer35 赞2021/6/1
Well since we don't know Hitler said in his last moments you can't prove he didn't say this!
反正我们也不知道希特勒临终前到底说了啥,所以你也没法证明他没说过这话!
ShotgunMongol21 赞2021/6/1
Well, if he did say this during his last hours, we can prove something we've always known! Hitler was a dumbass.
嗯,如果他临终前真说了这话,那正好证明了我们一直以来的认知!希特勒就是个蠢货。
astrvmnauta28 赞2021/6/1
Eh that’s not really the word id use to describe someone who convinced an entire nation to literally fight the entire world over some extra living space. Fanatic? Yes. Dumb? Nope.
呃,要是用“蠢”来形容一个能忽悠全国上下为了点生存空间跟全世界开战的人,我可不敢苟同。 狂热分子?没错。蠢货?那倒不是。
ShotgunMongol16 赞2021/6/1
I just wanted an excuse to insult Hitler mainly, but you are right, he wasn't dumb overall. However, militarily, he was an absolute dumbass with his obsession with Wunderwaffen, those things effectively won the war for the Allies. Also, his hatred of the MP43/STG44 was stupid as well, even if his rifle doctrine of full power battle rifles with relatively low powered scopes seems to be what every nation wants now.
我主要就是想找个借口骂希特勒而已,但你说得对,他整体上确实不蠢。不过在军事上,他因为迷恋那些所谓的“奇迹武器”(Wunderwaffen)简直就是个彻头彻尾的蠢货,那些玩意儿实际上等于帮了盟军的大忙,让他们赢了战争。另外,他厌恶 MP43/STG44 也很蠢,尽管他那种推崇全威力步枪配低倍率瞄准镜的理念,倒看起来像是现在各国军队所追求的配置。
ronflair74 赞2021/5/31
“Just kidding volks! It’s the Jews. Danke, danke, you’re a great crowd.”
“开个玩笑啦大伙儿!都是犹太人的错。多谢多谢,你们真是太棒了。”
Sieze532 赞2021/5/31
I was thinking Jazz Hands.
我本来以为你会说爵士摇摆手(Jazz Hands)呢。
EvilioMTE19 赞2021/5/31
Because that was a popular visual medium at the time. Same way someone today would take their queues from what they've seen look cool in current movies.
因为那是当时很流行的视觉媒介。这就好比现在的人也会从时下电影里那些看起来很酷的镜头中找灵感一样。
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He took tons of these, asking which one looked most menacing and imposing. Hitler was a huge doofy chode.
他拍了成堆这种照片,还问别人哪张看起来最凶狠、最有压迫感。希特勒就是个彻头彻尾的蠢货大傻屌。
ghettobx99 赞2021/5/31
Yeah, hitler wasn’t practicing a speech... he was practicing certain extreme gestures that would excite the German masses that he addressed in person with his speeches. He was trying to nail down how to perfectly capture the audience’s attention in such a way that would reinforce the nationalist fervor he was attempting to rouse in the German people. Everything was meticulously coordinated, right down to the smallest details including the gestures he used in his speeches.
没错,希特勒那会儿可不是在练习演讲……他是在琢磨那些极端的肢体动作,好让他亲自发表演讲时能借此点燃德国民众的情绪。他一直在苦练,想拿捏好该如何精准地抓住听众的注意力,从而强化他想要在德国人民心中煽动起的民族主义狂热。一切都是精心设计好的,细致到连演讲时的手势这种微小的细节都不放过。
PrayForMojo_69 赞2021/6/1
He should have tried a spray tan and a bad wig.
他早该试试美黑喷雾再加上一顶劣质假发的。
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Dude, the Nazis were the most closeted group in human history. You're going to tell me these aren't just drama nerds who took their performance way too far? They had costumes, we doing choreography for speeches, were starting film franchises. I wonder if Hitler had a diary. I bet you it's the most emo shit that humanity will ever be able to produce.
老兄,纳粹绝对是人类史上最“深柜”的群体。你跟我说这些人不是一群把戏演过头的戏剧书呆子?他们有戏服,搞演讲编舞,甚至还开启了系列电影。我真好奇希特勒有没有写日记。我敢打赌,那绝对是人类历史上能产出的最emo的玩意儿。
Delicious_Peak989319 赞2021/6/1
The aesthetic of evil https://youtu.be/5pOdESxw1o4
Asangkt35821 赞2021/6/1
Well, his practice kind of paid off for him. He was arguably one of the most eloquent public speakers of a century that was chock full of eloquent speakers.
嗯,他的勤学苦练确实没白费。在那个演讲天才辈出的世纪里,他大概算得上是最口若悬河的演说家之一。
xkcd_puppy36 赞2021/5/31
If only that asshole had got into theater instead, he probably would have been a great Shakespearean actor.
要是那个混蛋当初去搞戏剧就好了,说不定能成个了不起的莎剧演员。
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Another way to say this is he saw fascism as integral to the human experience. Not simply struggle, but violence for the sake of violence because it is what the strong do to the weak as a means of exerting dominance.
换句话说,在他眼里,法西斯主义是人类生存体验中不可或缺的一部分。那不单纯是斗争,而是为了暴力而施加暴力,因为他觉得强者就该通过这种手段去奴役弱者,以彰显自己的统治地位。
DisastrousBoio64 赞2021/5/31
An argument that has been making an unexpected comeback in the last decade. It’s been shown in evolutionary terms that cooperation is better than oppression and violence but people still cling to this toxic ideology because they just need to feel superior that badly.
一个在过去十年里意外“回潮”的论点。进化论层面的研究已经证明,合作比压迫和暴力更有效,但人们仍然死守着这种毒性思想,因为他们实在太渴望那种“高人一等”的感觉了。
AHdidnoW26 赞2021/6/1
Not feeling superior. Being superior. That is a feeling stronger than shooting heroin as you orgasm into your own sister. You have to accept that some people just don't see other people as people. It is what it is.
不是感觉高人一等,而是真的高人一等。那种感觉比你一边跟亲姐妹乱伦一边打海洛因还要爽。 你得认清现实,有些人就是根本不把别人当人看。这也就是事实,没辙。
probablyuntrue73 赞2021/5/31
Meanwhile the dude looks like he can barely punch his way out of a paper bag
同时,这家伙看起来连张薄纸袋都捅不破。
DukeOfGeek144 赞2021/5/31
That's true, but remember he survives 3 years of WWI trench combat.
确实如此,但别忘了他在一战的战壕战里可是硬生生熬过了3年。
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Rhamni25 赞2021/6/1
The real fascism was the friends we made along the way.
真正的法西斯主义,其实是我们这一路结交的朋友(注:此处为网络流行反讽梗,意指那些所谓的“友谊”)。
Szwedo50 赞2021/5/31
Hitler was a tough mofo given his ww1 experience. Himmler on the other hand...
考虑到他的一战经历,希特勒确实是个狠角色。反观希姆莱嘛……
paone002238 赞2021/5/31
Himmler wrote the rules for the perfect man who can join the SS. Meanwhile dude couldn't even lift 15lbs.
希姆莱制定了加入党卫军的“完美男人”标准。可笑的是,这哥们儿自己连15磅(约6.8公斤)都举不起来。
giulianosse16 赞2021/6/1
I mean, there couldn't be a better person to write these rules. He just had to look at the mirror and describe everything opposite to what he saw.
我是说,真的没人比他更适合写这些规则了。他只需要对着镜子,把自己看到的一切反着描述出来就行了。
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Gorf_the_Magnificent539 赞2021/5/31
A couple of interesting points from that link: - Hitler ordered Hoffman to destroy these pictures, but Hoffman didn’t obey, and published them in his 1955 memoir, “Hitler Was My Friend.” - Hoffman introduced Hitler to his then-studio assistant, Eva Braun.
从那个链接里看到的几个有意思的点: - 希特勒曾下令霍夫曼销毁这些照片,但霍夫曼没听,反而在他 1955 年的回忆录《希特勒是我的朋友》里把它们公之于众了。 - 霍夫曼把当时在工作室当他助理的爱娃·布劳恩介绍给了希特勒。
Andybobandy0116 赞2021/5/31
Thanks for the interesting stuff. Wonder what kind of attention he got after the publication.
感谢分享这些干货。挺好奇他这书发了之后引起了多大反响。
youandmeboth84 赞2021/5/31
The article says he died 2 years after he published the book
文章里说了,他书出版两年后就挂了。
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•Hitler frequently broke the “sometimes-always-never” rule of three-button suit jackets.
•希特勒经常打破三粒扣西装“有时扣、总是扣、从不扣”的着装守则。
A_Sinclaire35 赞2021/5/31
Though isn't that mostly British fashion that somehow ended up being the global default for suit jackets? I could imagine intentionally closing the bottom button as a statement. (not that it makes only leaving the top button open look better).
不过,那不是大多数英式西装剪裁演变出来的、后来莫名其妙成了全球西装通用的默认穿法吗?我倒是能想象有人故意把最底下的扣子扣上,以此来彰显个性。(但这并不代表只留最上面一颗扣子不扣会看起来更好看)。
kelaraja25 赞2021/6/1
“Please destroy these photos. They make me look like a madman! How embarrassing!” —Hitler
“请销毁这些照片。它们让我看起来像个疯子!真是太丢人了!”——希特勒
just_let_go_37 赞2021/5/31
另一个有意思的点: 文章最下面第一条评论说“帅”。
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三条评论都挺奇怪地支持。
johnnycasaba84 赞2021/5/31
谢谢你给的链接,超爱这句话:“他有那种能让人停止批判性思考,只会情绪爆发的能力。”
nomadofwaves30 赞2021/5/31
听着莫名耳熟。
ghettobx19 赞2021/5/31
可不嘛。这帮人叫政客。
HeyCarpy26 赞2021/5/31
真有意思。有些照片里他简直像换了个人似的。
ZootZephyr21 赞2021/6/1
Agreed. I think it's because he was trying out different mannerisms and actions that fit his desired persona. We recognize the fist clenching and high arm but the others that he didn't use, seem unrecognizable. It's pretty wild to see.
同意。我觉得是因为他在尝试各种不同的神态和动作,想看看哪些符合他想要打造的人设。我们能认出那个握拳和高举手臂的动作,但那些他最终没用上的动作,看着就挺陌生的。这景象简直太疯狂了。
Fando1234467 赞2021/5/31
There's something terrifying about the fact he rehearsed. Makes everything he said even more deliberate. More than just a random angry, facist, rant. But carefully crafted words of hatred.
想到他居然还排练过,真让人细思极恐。这让他说的一切都显得更加蓄谋已久。那不仅仅是随口喷出的愤怒法西斯言论,而是精心炮制出的仇恨辞令。
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Of course he rehearsed! Every politician does. The Nazis considered the speech to be the most effective form of propaganda, and they honed it just like any sophists. I'm pretty sure he didn't rant all the time, but we tend to be shown the crescendos. Consider that he was a Wagnerian - I think he tried to make the speech a *Gesamtkunstwerk* or total-work-of-art, and in the end that's all it was - a pack of lies dressed up as a fantasy.
他当然排练过!哪个政客不排练啊。 纳粹认为演讲是最高效的宣传手段,他们像那些诡辩家一样把这门手艺磨练得炉火纯青。我很确定他不是时刻都在咆哮,但我们往往只能看到他情绪最高昂的那一幕。 别忘了他是瓦格纳迷——我觉得他是想把演讲打造成一种“整体艺术”(Gesamtkunstwerk),但归根结底,那玩意儿不过就是一堆披着幻想外衣的谎言罢了。
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> very politician does. I remember a guy pretty recently in American politics that I'm pretty certain flew off the cuff 99% of the time.
> 所有的政客都这样。 我记得美国政坛最近有位老兄,我敢肯定他那 99% 的时候都是即兴发挥,随心所欲。
yourfallguy53 赞2021/5/31
Think of his time in reality TV as his rehearsal. That’s where he learned what plays well on camera and translates to punch sound bites.
你可以把他那段真人秀经历看作是他的排练。他就是在那里学到了什么在镜头前效果好,以及怎么把话变成那种一针见血的金句。
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FreddieMercury0316 赞2021/5/31
Yes of course he rehearsed but I have never personally heard of people rehearsing their hand movements and their gestures. He was incredibly animated and I find it scary that he had planned it all out in probably every speech like some sort of choreography.
对,他当然排练过,但我个人从来没听说过有人连手势和动作都要排练的。他表现得极度夸张,而想到他居然像编排舞蹈一样,把这些细节都算计进了每一场演讲里,我觉得这事儿挺吓人的。
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这可是门古老的艺术:https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Chironomia
acouperlesouffle5598 赞2021/5/31
Uhhh, public speakers rehearse all the time. As do actors. As do trial attorneys. As do anyone who’s ever had to get up before people and convince them of anything. Shit, I practiced for my middle school senate election. I practiced for poems I’ve had to memorize for classes.
呃,演讲者们老是在排练。演员也是。出庭律师也是。任何曾经需要在众人面前站出来说服他们什么的人,全都在排练。见鬼,我初中竞选参议员的时候就排练过。为了课上要背的诗,我也排练过。
art-man_201824 赞2021/5/31
Look up [Erik Jan Hanussen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Jan_Hanussen) >Although Hanussen claimed to be a Danish aristocrat, he was in fact a Moravian Jew, born as Hermann (Herschel Chaim) Steinschneider. >Stories abound of meetings between Hanussen and Hitler, including an encounter shortly before the election of November 1932, during which Hanussen taught Hitler his crowd control techniques of using gestures and dramatic pauses.
去查查 [Erik Jan Hanussen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Jan_Hanussen) >尽管哈努森自称是丹麦贵族,但他实际上是个摩拉维亚犹太人,原名赫尔曼(赫舍尔·海姆)·施泰因施奈德。 >关于哈努森与希特勒会面的传闻比比皆是,其中包括 1932 年 11 月选举前夕的一次会面,在那期间,哈努森教给了希特勒如何通过手势和戏剧性的停顿来掌控人群的技巧。
WoodGunsPhoto15 赞2021/5/31
The only unrehearsed things that they say cost them a lot. Everything is rehearsed. Trump was probably the closest we'll ever get to a "politician" saying whatever he wanted and you saw how well that worked. I'd bet my left nut that Kamala repeated her we did it Joe at least 5 times in front of her mirror.
他们说的唯一没排练过的话,都让他们付出了惨痛的代价。所有东西都是提前排练好的。特朗普大概是我们能见到的最接近“想说什么就说什么”的政客了,你也看到了他那样做效果如何。我敢赌上我一颗蛋,哈里斯在镜子面前绝对至少对着自己练了五遍那句“我们做到了,乔”。
hoangvodoi456 赞2021/5/31
He was 36 in this pic. The mustache add quite some age
他在这张照片里才36岁。这撇小胡子让他显老不少。
HypocriticalCritic145 赞2021/6/1
I can also imagine WW1 added some years onto his face
我也能想到一战肯定也让他看起来沧桑了许多。
tanhan2730 赞2021/6/1
IMO he was not a good looking dude.
我觉得他长得真不咋地。
Arthorius16305 赞2021/5/31
Sometimes, i look at sone Hitler's photos and videos, and i think to myself: Man, why did you gave up arts? Sometimes i feel like this is just a alternative reality and that i lived in one reality where he was just a peaceful german artist and painter.
有时候看着希特勒的照片和视频,我会忍不住想:伙计,你当年为什么要放弃艺术呢? 有时候我甚至觉得这就像个平行宇宙,我活在另一个现实里,在那儿他只是个安安静静的德国艺术家和画家。
ejpintar116 赞2021/5/31
I mean, he was kinda a messed up guy from the start. He believed a lot of those awful things since way before he became an artist, and even had antisocial tendencies as a child. He likely would have become a politician anyway even if he got into art school since his political career grew out of his time in the military, not from being unemployed from lack of artistic success.
我的意思是,他打从一开始就有点心理扭曲。他甚至在还没开始搞艺术之前就已经信奉那些烂糟透顶的思想了,小时候就有反社会倾向。就算他真进了艺术学校,估计最后还是会去搞政治,因为他的政治生涯是从军队那段经历衍生出来的,又不是因为在艺术界混不下去失业了才转行的。
fietsusa20 赞2021/6/1
From his viewpoint, he got to create and design uniforms, buildings, society, and an “ideal” race of people instead. A much bigger project than painting. They even had a 240 page book of brand guidelines. Graphic designer, Stephen Heller, wrote a book about some of it, mainly concerning the use of the swastika over time.
在他看来,他反而能去创造和设计制服、建筑、社会,甚至是某种“理想”人种。这可比画画大得多了。他们甚至还有一本长达 240 页的品牌手册呢。 平面设计师史蒂芬·海勒(Stephen Heller)专门写过一本书来探讨其中的一些内容,重点研究了纳粹万字旗随时间演变的过程。
nixon46950 赞2021/5/31
*Austrian Also it was WW1 that radicalised him. He would have joined the war whether or not he’d joined the arts school. So I don’t think history would have all been that different. Hitler was a man of his time, and he came to represent a generation of incredibly bitter and hateful people who wanted revenge for seeing their homeland being destroyed in front of their eyes. Think of how potent 9/11 was, now think how the average German must have felt at the end of WW1, from one of the worlds upcoming superpowers to a humiliated and embittered torn up nation. It’s this that led Hitler on his path, his rejection from art school really doesn’t matter as much as others would have you think.
*奥地利人 而且,是一战让他变得激进的。不管有没有考上那所艺术学校,他都会去参战的。所以我并不觉得历史会有多大的不同。 希特勒是他那个时代的产物,他代表了整整一代极其痛苦且充满仇恨的人,他们眼睁睁看着家园被毁,一心只想复仇。想想“9/11”事件的影响力有多大,再想想一战结束时德国普通民众的心情——从一个即将崛起的全球超级大国,瞬间变成了一个饱受羞辱、痛苦不堪、四分五裂的国家。 正是这些经历让他走上了那条路,至于他被艺术学校拒之门外,根本没别人说得那么重要。
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there probably was something inside him, and not being accepted at the Vienna art school made him snap. He was a great painter, but such an awful human being. he completely wasted his potential.
他内心深处可能确实有些不对劲,而在维也纳艺术学校被拒成了压垮他的最后一根稻草。他确实是个很棒的画家,但做人却烂透了。他完全浪费了自己的天赋。
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>not being accepted at the Vienna art school made him snap I mean this is just one of those Reddit history memes that gets bandied about and is entirely fictitious. Real life isn't a movie lmao. He had pretty much the same ideas his whole life and sort of became a product of his environment as he meandered through shit paid work and the social scene in Vienna & Germany. The art school wasn't really a significant factor at all lol.
>没被维也纳艺术学院录取让他彻底崩了 我的意思是,这不过是 Reddit 上那种被传来传去的历史梗,纯属胡扯。现实生活又不是拍电影,笑死。他那一辈子其实一直都是那些想法,只不过在维也纳和德国混迹于那些烂差事和社交圈时,逐渐变成了他所处环境的产物而已。 艺术学院的事儿根本就没多大影响,笑死。
LastActionJoe101 赞2021/5/31
Not to mention he fought in ww1, that probably left him a bit more damaged and salty. Germany got screwed after the war which led to rampant nationalism and the brown shirts coming to power, and hatred of the Jews was not exclusive to Germany at the time.
更别提他还参加过一战,那段经历估计让他心理创伤更重,也更愤世嫉俗了。德国在战后被坑惨了,这直接导致了激进民族主义和冲锋队的上位,而且当时仇视犹太人这种事儿也不光是德国才有。
JTP122830 赞2021/5/31
Yea. And if it wasn't Hitler, it would have been someone else stepping up and taking power. At that point, WW2 was almost unavoidable
没错。就算不是希特勒,也会有别人站出来掌权。到了那个节骨眼上,二战几乎是不可避免的。
Maiesk16 赞2021/6/1
Aye, if we have to give him a Freudian Excuse, you have to point to WWI. The man was blinded by a gas attack and while incapacitated found out that after years of service and many victories, Germany had surrendered. After that he watched his country devastated by the Treaty of Versailles, its sanctions only imposed because the "weak" civilian leaders of the country had failed the world's greatest army. He had always been a patriot, always believing in Germany and the strength of the German people. He was excited to fight for them, and even when wounded he begged not to be taken away from his duties. Seeing what the rest of Europe did to Germany post-war quickly turned his resentment into wrath, and his patriotism into Fascism. Honestly I think the only difference made by him not getting into art school is that at least he'd have been out in Vienna and maybe wouldn't have gotten into the thick of things in the right moments.
哎,如果非要给他找个弗洛伊德式的心理借口,那肯定得追溯到一战。那家伙在毒气袭击中失明了,在丧失战斗力期间,他得知了自己在服役多年并取得多次胜利后,德国竟然投降了。在那之后,他眼睁睁看着自己的国家被《凡尔赛条约》搞得支离破碎,而那些制裁之所以会强加在德国头上,完全是因为国内那些“软弱”的文官政府辜负了世界上最伟大的军队。 他一直是个爱国者,始终坚信德国以及德国人民的力量。他当时为了给国家而战感到热血沸腾,即便受了伤也哀求着别让他离开岗位。眼看着战后欧洲其他国家是怎么对待德国的,这让他心里的怨恨迅速转化为怒火,爱国主义也随之扭曲成了法西斯主义。 老实说,我觉得他没考上艺术学院唯一的影响就是,如果考上了,他至少会待在维也纳,也许就不会刚好在关键时刻卷进那些漩涡中心了。
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I was told at school that the frustration pushed him to politics, but yeah it's obvious that you don't develop hateful ideologies just because you didn't get accepted in an art school lol
我上学那会儿被灌输说是因为挫败感才把他推向了政治,但讲真,显然不可能仅仅因为没考上个艺术学院就搞出那种仇恨意识形态吧,哈哈。
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>I was told at school that the frustration pushed him to politics Well yeah, that's what I was referring to. People act like it's some Joker "we live in a society" moment that made him go crazy or whatever. Nah man, dude was always hateful af and probably would have been a Nazi either way, art school or no art school.
>我上学那会儿被灌输说是因为挫败感才把他推向了政治 得了吧,我说的就是这个。大家搞得好像这就像小丑那种“我们生活在社会中”的崩坏瞬间一样,才让他疯掉或者别的什么。根本不是,老兄,那家伙本来就仇恨值爆表,不管有没有考上艺术学院,估计最后都得是个纳粹。
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He looks like a Vampire about to die because of exposure to sunlight.
他看起来就像个快被太阳晒死的老吸血鬼。
fretofdoom30 赞2021/5/31
For a split second I thought it was a scene from Nosferatu!
我刚才有一瞬间真以为这是《诺斯费拉图》里的画面!
1man_marg-sabl103 赞2021/5/31
The man was truly a genius. To be able to paint your vision so blindingly across your country and to have all those people believe some absurdities, because you're a good public speaker is some true power.
这个人确实是个天才。能够把自己的愿景如此洗脑般地在大半个国家里灌输,并且仅凭自己是个演说高手,就能让所有人对那些荒唐事深信不疑,这真的是种极大的能耐。
CHark8086 赞2021/5/31
>To be able to paint your vision so blindingly across your country and to have all those people believe some absurdities While he did that, a lot of people wanted to believe Nazi rhetoric, and it didn't take much convincing to get them there.
>能在全国范围内如此耀眼地描绘出你的愿景,并让所有那些人去相信那些荒谬的鬼话。 当他在做这些事的时候,很多人其实内心是想去相信纳粹那套修辞的,要说服他们根本不需要费多大劲。
Rata-toskr40 赞2021/5/31
It's not hard time convince parts of the population that *their* group is superior to *other* groups. Tribalism is unfortunately a seemingly inherent part of the human psyche.
要说服一部分人去相信*他们*那一派优于*其他*派别,这并不难。遗憾的是,部落主义似乎是人类心理中与生俱来的一部分。
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especially when you are suffering and angry and looking to put that hurt and blame somewhere.
特别是当你正处于苦难和愤怒之中,急着想找个地方去宣泄伤痛和迁怒他人的时候。
pembroke52973 赞2021/5/31
I'm currently reading "Hitler in Hell", and now I understand the "why" of this photo as well as the "who" (who took the photo - Hoffman). It's a great read for anyone interested in an "autobiography" of Hitler post suicide.
我最近正在读《希特勒在地狱》(Hitler in Hell),现在我不仅搞懂了这张照片里“谁”(摄影师——霍夫曼)拍的,还明白了为什么要拍它。 对于任何对希特勒自杀后“自传”感兴趣的人来说,这本书都非常值得一读。
ShenBapiro2072 赞2021/5/31
The more I learn about this "Hitler" guy, the less I like him.
我对这个叫“希特勒”的家伙了解得越多,就越讨厌他。
Perryparsons01833 赞2021/5/31
Seems like a real jerk
感觉这人真是个彻头彻尾的混蛋。
black_fire_storm32 赞2021/5/31
I'm imagining him with Dr. Strange like magic hand circles
我在脑补他像奇异博士那样在那儿画圈圈施魔法。
count_frightenstein24 赞2021/5/31
He wasn't really practicing a speech, more how he looked and his facial expressions and hand movements. Sure he was talking but that was secondary as he reviewed and modified things based on the pictures.
他其实并没有在练习演讲词,更多是在琢磨自己的仪态、表情和手势。他确实是在说话,但这只是次要的,他主要是在根据画面来审视和调整自己的表现。
ArrowNut723 赞2021/5/31
“Lose the spirit fingers” “Really, fuck I thought it was kinda cool”
“把那个招魂舞般的手势给我收了。” “讲真,靠,我还觉得挺帅的呢。”
Slurp_Lord18 赞2021/5/31
跟你说吧,我直接说了。操那个男的。
[已删除]16 赞2021/6/1
“霍夫曼”?听着像犹太人的名字!
[已删除]14 赞2021/5/31
私人摄影师……这孙子在“ins”还没出现的时候就已经在玩“ins”了。
waterbylak13 赞2021/5/31
Thinking about the shit he must’ve seen in his formative twenties as a front line soldier in WW 1, not surprising to see madness in those eyes.
一想到他在二十出头那会儿作为一战前线士兵肯定见过不少烂摊子,看到他那双眼睛里的疯狂也就不足为奇了。
AdotFlicker11 赞2021/6/1
Fuck that guy and every single thing he stood for.
去他妈的那个家伙,还有他所代表的一切破事。
[已删除]8 赞2021/6/1
The man really looked deranged in his speeches. His neck would always contort in the most bizarre ways. Looked like he was possessed.
这人演讲的时候看起来真像个疯子。他的脖子总是以各种诡异的方式扭动。看起来就像是被鬼附身了一样。
Puftwaffe7 赞2021/5/31
他看起来就像刚被一辆失控的火车撞了个正着。
36_Chambers_6 赞2021/5/31
我愿意相信,这是他给自己“一枪崩了”时脸上的表情。
[已删除]6 赞2021/5/31
我不能给希特勒点赞。但这张照片很有力量,因为它展现了戏剧性对他的宣传有多重要。
tally065 赞2021/6/1
An ardent animal rights supporter he enacted laws protecting animals, also he once wrote a so sorry letter to a school recovering from a death toll due to a gas fire. The Japanese often portray their evil characters in anime with some good traits to make them more realistic ,usually people dont walk around saying they are evil..Maybe Hitler went nuts on drugs and any reservations he may have had about being inhuman to accomplish his stated goals vanished.I still think Stalin never had any good traits as an adult and was just pure evil "naturally".
他是个狂热的动物权益支持者,还制定过保护动物的法律,而且他曾经给一所因煤气火灾造成伤亡的学校写过一封非常诚恳的致歉信。日本人经常会在动画里把反派塑造得带点优点,好让他们看起来更真实,毕竟现实里没人会到处嚷嚷说自己是大坏蛋……也许希特勒是嗑药嗑疯了,导致他对于为了达成既定目标而做出非人行径所仅存的一点顾虑也烟消云散了。我还是觉得斯大林成年后就没啥优点,纯粹是“天生”的恶魔。
paperjav5 赞2021/5/31
This picture made me think if this video straight away [Hitler glowsticks] (https://youtu.be/hOYeo22PHFE) (I do not own the video)
看到这张照片我立马就想到了这个视频 [希特勒荧光棒] (https://youtu.be/hOYeo22PHFE) (视频不是我的)。
lostindanet5 赞2021/5/31
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