Classic reddit, Post: "This is a 6'8" warrior king who was extensively trained in hand to hand combat and won his throne by killing many enemies" Comment: "No visible abs and weak bicep definition, pretty pathetic if you ask me."
Yup just look at his shoulders and biceps, the man is strong as hell under that dough, guaranteed.
没错,你看他的肩膀和二头肌,那身膘下面绝对是钢筋铁骨,妥妥的。
jeffthefox118 赞2021/2/11
Thiccbois: we got the power
Thiccbois:我们这儿有实力。
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We all know at least one thicc boi who is just crazy strong compared to what you expect.
我们每个人身边肯定都有那么个看起来壮实(thicc boi),但力气大到让你大跌眼镜的哥们。
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Function over form, fellas
功能第一,颜值第二,兄弟们。
justyourbarber28 赞2021/2/11
He was only the King for a few years so it couldn't have been too long before this either. That said, I'd imagine being King could make him gain a bit of weight since it would have less physical requirements than social.
I believe it was an expectation that the king would put on weight, it was a show of power that he could be waited on all day by his wives and eat the best food
The strongest men in the world are a perfect balance of muscle and fat. Just look at any world's strongest Man competition
世界上最强壮的男人,身体都是肌肉和脂肪的完美平衡。不信去看看“世界大力士比赛”就知道了。
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Guess you never heard of farmer strength.
看来你是没听说过什么叫“农夫力量”(farmer strength)。
prooijtje157 赞2021/2/11
Seriously though, people are influenced too much by Hollywood in thinking you need to look like Thor to actually be considered muscled.
说正经的,大家受好莱坞影响太深了,总觉得非得长得像雷神那样才算是有肌肉。
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Haha don't worry bout the donkeys. Let em graze
哈哈,别管那些蠢货(donkeys)了。随他们去吧。
zkinny17 赞2021/2/11
It's so fucking real. I've seen a skinny ranchboi carry tractor chains (for the wheels) like they were nothing.
这简直太他妈真实了。我亲眼见过那种瘦瘦的农场小子扛着拖拉机链条(车轮用的那种),跟没事人一样。
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Yup. I'm 6ft 250lbs and I can lift my own weight without a massive issue. It's hard but definitely doable, and my 6pack is in the recycling bin, no where near my stomach. Do have dad-bod.
I think people overestimate how much muscle they have. Sure most big guys have some more muscle than the average person, but for most people those 50-60 extra pounds are mostly just fat
>6ft 250lbs > Do have dad-bod. Keep telling yourself that.
>6英尺,250磅
> 说自己有“老爹身材”。
接着自欺欺人吧你。
Business-Alarm-749528 赞2021/2/11
OMG The claws are out, queens!
天哪,姐妹们,这是要开撕了吗!
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Yeah that’s about 50-60 pounds over a dad bod lmao
是啊,这离“老爹身材”起码还差个50到60磅呢,笑死。
ALoudMouthBaby62 赞2021/2/11
> Yeahhh, it looks like fat not muscle. The way people carry fat varies a whole lot, but Ive got to say those legs are absolutely huge. You rarely see legs like that on people who dont squat some substantial weight. The prevalence of PED's in lifting has really warped people's conception of what a strong body looks like. So yeah, those legs have some chub to them but theres probably a fuck ton of muscle underneath. Those are the legs of someone who squats 600lbs at drug tested powerlifting meets.
The boar body type.
We call people built like that either boar or ox around here. They look a bit too "fat" or heavy and slow but holy hell they're mighty. I hope you get what I mean.
They managed to beat the British at Isandlwana through weight of numbers. They killed something like 1,500 British troops but at the cost of something like 3,000 casualties on their side. Who knows how many of them actually ended up dying of their wounds. The victory was a great statement on the bravery of the Zulu warrior but ultimately it was a disaster for the Zulu people as it was something the British would not be able to just let go. The whole invasion of Zululand to begin with by the British was unauthorised by the British government and something instigated by Sir Henry Bartle Edward Frere to further his own personal ambitions. He was recalled to London on charges of misconduct related to his unauthorised invasion of Zululand but of course it was too late then to stop the Anglo-Zulu War as the defeat at Isandlwana could not be let go by the British government. The defeat at Isandlwana is basically why the battle of Rorkes drift got so much attention. The British needed to come up with a victory of sorts to offset the disaster of Isandlwana. So a relatively unimportant action at Rorkes drift got the legend treatment. Just as an addition on Sir Henry Bartle Edward Frere his policies in Africa also led to the Boer wars and his polices when in India led to war with Afghanistan. He was a total disaster area that left a trail of destruction in his wake. He died not too long after being recalled to London in disgrace whereupon he was beyond causing the world any further harm. #
Just a side note. The Zulus were organized into units called impis. They could be identified by the color of their shields with each impi having its own color of cowhide. Their battle formation was like the head of a bull, the head in the middle to engage the enemy and the horns on each side to envelop the enemy. They used their shields not only for protection but also to smash the toes of the person they were fighting who was usually barefoot They had some mixed and motley guns which they used at long range to little affect. They most feared the British bayonets which when affixed to the Martini Henry rifle was essentially a spear that out ranged the short Zulu spears.
Thanks for the details. The Zulus organisational skills were certainly very impressive and something the British really under estimated.
感谢分享这些细节。祖鲁人的组织能力确实让人印象深刻,这也是英国人严重低估的一点。
infernal_llamas97 赞2021/2/12
I think what you could say is that they actually managed to charge a musket line. They charged into bullets. And didn't break. The numbers would have helped them do it but *damn*
Yeah, and not to dispute or diminish their bravery but they used about 15,000 warriors against 1,800 total British, who were using breechloaders with a *maximum* fire rate of 12 rounds per minute, which I would assume was limited during any battle, but especially one like this... with an effective range of 400 yards. I don’t know how fast they were moving, but I’d expect that they closed pretty quickly. I would expect that most of those 15,000 Zulu warriors never came anywhere close to being shot.
Yea but the point is *did they know that*? Charging into that kind of fire is scary.
话是这么说,但问题的关键是——他们知道这一点吗?硬顶着那种火力冲锋还是很吓人的好吗。
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The British were used to African armies fighting at a distance as most other tribes favoured the throwing spear, bows and firearms. The Zulu short Iklwa spear was preferably used in close combat. This wasn't something the Brits had encountered before but soon adapted to later on the win the war.
Rorkes Drift was still a pretty impressive battle though.
不过罗克渡口之战确实还是场挺牛的战役。
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CasualSB21 赞2021/2/11
Incredible scene, I've watch this probably 50+ times over the years
这场面太神了,这些年来我大概刷了有50多遍吧。
dvb7052 赞2021/2/11
I don't dispute that. It just got a lot of publicity attached to it due to the Isandlwana disaster.
这点我没意见。只是因为伊散德尔瓦纳那场惨败,这事儿才被炒得沸沸扬扬的。
Paladin32744 赞2021/2/11
Zulus attack, fight back to back?
祖鲁人杀过来了,这是要背靠背死磕吗?
AzureBlew30 赞2021/2/11
Show them no mercy and fire at will!
别对他们心慈手软,给我开火,随意开火(fire at will)!
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Which one's Will?
那个叫“威尔(Will)”的是谁啊?
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Although to be fair, just as Isandlwana was a great statement on the bravery of the Zulu warrior, Rorke's drift was *also* a great statement on the bravery of the British soldier, despite the fact that the British government needed to take the focus away from Isandlwana. So I feel it's a bit harsh to simply dismiss it as having received the 'legend treatment'.
It's a great testament to the British soldiers' bravery but also British hautiness, lack of scouting, and outstripping one's supply lines. Not to mention the British not understanding how much ammunition their soldiers needed with "new" rapid-fire rifles.
I don't deny the bravery of the British solider at Rorke's drift. I just don't think we would ever of even heard of Rorke's drift if it were not for the need to come up with something to offset the Isandlwana disaster. I did not intend to dismiss Rorke's drift as if it were nothing just I think we should recognise why it got the publicity that it did.
We probably still would have heard of Rorkes Drift tbf
说句公道话,就算没那回事,我们可能还是会听说罗克渡口的。
pheasant-plucker54 赞2021/2/11
There were lots of battles in which small groups of Europeans with modern equipment defeated larger forces of native troops. Most of the have been forgotten.
过去有很多战役,都是装备精良的少数欧洲人击败了人数众多的当地土著军队。其中大多数早已被人遗忘了。
timeforknowledge59 赞2021/2/11
>So a relatively unimportant action at Rorkes drift got the legend treatment. Is it unimportant though / not worthy of legendary status? Surely it represented the skill, technological advantage and incredible military discipline held by the British. Not to mention England loves an underdog story. Waterloo and Trafalgar were more politically important but the odds of those battles were at least even. The story of a small force defeated a much much larger force will always become legendary?
Rorkes drift is unimportant from the perspective of the war as a whole. It decided nothing. It was certainly a worthy achievement though and it is a great underdog story. It just would have likely been forgotten if it were not for the British government looking for some good news to offset Isandlwana. It's a classic case of propaganda. This does not diminish what actually happened at Rorkes drift though.
> It just would have likely been forgotten if it were not for the British government looking for some good news to offset Isandlwana. I don't know, look to the battle of Thermopylae; 300 (actually 7000) Vs 70k-300k. Yet it is one of the most famous battles in European ancient history. The charge is the light brigade? Again a pointless action that gained legendary status for the discipline demonstrated. I'm just making the point there is something in human nature that make underdog battles memorable, interesting / legendary. > It's a classic case of propaganda. I don't disagree with this, they would have been told for that purpose but the fact of the matter was one force over came terrible odds to become victorious and that will always be memorable.
> 要不是英国政府当时急需点好消息来冲淡伊散德瓦纳(Isandlwana)惨败带来的影响,这件事大概早就被人们遗忘了。
我倒不这么觉得,看看温泉关战役(Thermopylae)就知道了;300人(实际上是7000人)对抗7万到30万大军。但这却是欧洲古代史上最著名的战役之一。
还有轻骑兵冲锋(Charge of the Light Brigade)呢?那同样是一场毫无意义的行动,却因为展现出的纪律性而成了传奇。
我只是想表达,人性中总有某种东西,让那些以弱胜强的战役变得令人难忘、引人入胜,甚至成为传说。
> 这就是典型的政治宣传案例。
这一点我并不否认,它们被大肆宣扬确实是为了那种目的,但事实是有一支部队克服了极端恶劣的形势取得了胜利,而这一点永远会被人铭记。
dvb7045 赞2021/2/11
You know I have a feeling both of your examples there may also be further examples of propaganda. They both happened in the context of things not going that well for the sides that told the stories. It does not change your point that we do love an underdog story and when such a story becomes well know for whatever reason it tends to last.
I watched a movie from the early 1960s called *Zulu* a while ago (if I'm not mistaken, it was Michael Caine's first significant acting role!) and needless to say it took a perspective far more favorable to the British with respect to these events than you'd get these days.
It was pretty respectful to the Zulus too I thought Like everytime in the movie when a soldier would attempt to say something racist or negative about them they’d be corrected by a superior who’s actually fought them and respected them For example the dude who challenges the British to be able to run 50 miles and fight at the end of it
In the beginning there is also a scene where the priests daughter gets harrased by some Zulu. Other Zulus save her. It is clearly to show the Zulus had honour and were not wild barbarians. Same with the long intro of the movie with the beautifull singing. The Zulus had culture, just like us.
They also used actually member of the Zulu nation to play themselves and their war chants were authentic (which were later reused in the movie gladiator)
Watched it last night. Can confirm it was respectful to both sides. The zulus are clearly the antagonists of the movie, but they aren’t demonized.
昨晚刚看完。可以确定的是,电影对双方都很尊重。祖鲁人显然是这部电影里的反派,但并没有被妖魔化。
infernal_llamas53 赞2021/2/11
>Once he had established the camp at Isandlwana, Chelmsford sent out two battalions of the Natal Native Contingent to scout ahead. They skirmished with elements of a Zulu force which he believed to be the vanguard of the main enemy army. Such was his confidence in British military training and firepower that he divided his force, taking about 2,800 soldiers which include half of the British infantry contingent together with around 600 auxiliaries, and departed the camp at dawn on 22 January to find the main Zulu force with the intention of bringing them to battle so as to achieve a decisive victory, leaving the remaining 1,300 men of the No. 3 Column to guard the camp. It never occurred to him that the Zulus he saw were diverting him from their main force.[50][51] Chelmsford forgot that the superior military machine is only superior when you actually treat your opponent as a threat and intelligent and don't do something stupid like fail to fortify your camp. As below the Zulus had an army with actual tactics and cohesion not just some locals with whatever weapons they could find the British were going to use as target practice. Of course you can't charge into guns indefinitely but it was a very well planned attack to make the most of the zulu's advantages and sucker the British into not preparing properly.
Having actually climbed Isandlwana on a school history trip.. I really enjoyed the remark of one veteran of that battle.. The hill has 3 tiers... and he is recorded saying (hey 40 year old memory here, cut me some slack on exact numbers) "I took 300 thousand steps climbing that hill and 3 steps coming down!"
I highly recommend 'Day of the Dead Moon', if you can find it. It's an extensive, well-researched chronicle of the Zulu wars by a South African historian, including stories from both sides of the conflict.
如果你能找到《Day of the Dead Moon》这本书,我强烈推荐。这是一位南非历史学家撰写的关于祖鲁战争的长篇编年史,资料相当详实,还收录了交战双方的亲历故事。
dulce_3t_decorum_3st106 赞2021/2/11
The Zulus were badass. They had a remarkable organised 'military' that, under Shaka, employed a battle tactic called the Bull's Horn Formation where they attacked around the flanks and surrounded the enemy. They also used short spears called ~~Assagais~~ Iklwa and animal-skin shields that gave them a huge advantage in close combat against slow reloading rifles and longer spears. These guys were well trained, fit, and strategic.
A point to add (and I'm not disparaging the Zulus here, they used every advantage and they did it well in this battle) was the superior numbers of the Zulus, communication and command failure of the British forces who rapidly found themselves surrounded, often cut off from each other and without the ammunition they needed, which resulted in close quarters fighting, which is where the Zulus had the clear advantage.
True. One should also not ignore the Zulus own brutality against the Xhosa tribe. They're not so innocent themselves.
确实。
大家也不该忽略祖鲁人自己对科萨部落的残暴行径。他们自己也并非什么省油的灯。
Kindly_Sky34 赞2021/2/11
There is a famous story about a Zulu impi that was on its was on its way to raid a Xhosa tribe. As they approach the area they camped on top of a mountain that overlooking the area that they were going to raid. The impi was made up of young men who where lightly dressed as they had marched a long distance. That night it began to snow, and many of the young soldiers died of exposure. Decimating the army and saving the Xhosa. The mountain is known as Insizwa - Which is the Zulu name for young unmarried men or soldiers.
Yeah the zulus were also colonisers of the area. They wiped out many tribes.
没错,祖鲁人也是这片土地的殖民者。他们灭掉了好多部落。
An_Anaithnid75 赞2021/2/11
Pretty much every culture in history is guilty of extreme brutality and what we'd deem inhumane practices. It's just that during the colonial era, some cultures had more efficient ways of doing it.
The Assegai is a long throwing spear. What you're thinking of is the Iklwa, which is the shorter stabbing spear and is named after the sound it makes when you pull it out of your opponents flesh.
Only in his early 90's. For years rumours have been doing the rounds that he has passed away only for him to make a public appearance alive and well.
他才九十出头而已。多年来一直有传言说他去世了,结果他总能活蹦乱跳地公开露面打脸。
lola_9229 赞2021/2/13
Yeah it's the Zulu king who is currently I'll and his heir died a couple of months ago. So the Zulu kingdom is kinda fucked
对啊,现在病重的是祖鲁王,而且他的继承人几个月前刚挂了。所以祖鲁王国现在基本算是完了。
itsalive4152 赞2021/2/12
One of my favorite movies of all time
这是我最爱的电影,没有之一。
Cousin-Jack347 赞2021/2/11
He defeated the British and stole their entire supply of hobnobs, eating nothing else for the rest of his life.
他击败了英国人,抢光了他们所有的好伴(Hobnobs)饼干,余生就只吃那个。
gazwel276 赞2021/2/11
In reality, the British went back and defeated his army with cannons and Gatling guns in 45 minutes. He was then exiled to London where this pic was probably taken.
The British response was quite something... They absolutely dismantled the Zulu nation. Proportional response was not really in the British vocabulary at that point in history. Yay colonialism...
People here acting like all Africans were the same people under the same flag. The Zulu conquered and took a lot of land from people native to the region, same as the British. Most South Africans are about as native to the area as the whites are. That's history. The strong prey on the weak. It's not a uniquely European thing.
Yeah Shaka Zulu was a straight bad ass conqueror that nobody really knows about.
没错,夏卡·祖鲁绝对是个狠角色征服者,但真的没几个人了解他。
Ask_Me_If_Im_A_Horse43 赞2021/2/11
Unless you play Civilization
除非你玩《文明》系列游戏。
Uniqueusername11111254 赞2021/2/11
Nooooo this is reddit and everyone knows only Europeans have ever conquered/colonized anyone else!!! Nothing like that *ever* took place in Africa, Asia, or the Americas!!! /s
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
你可能看不上,但这确实就是巅峰水准。
footlikeriverrock59 赞2021/2/11
And they say I "let myself go"
居然还有人说我“自暴自弃”了。
whiskey_reddit244 赞2021/2/11
Looks like an old college football linebacker coach
看上去像个大学橄榄球的线卫教练。
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Or a High School Rugby Coach..
或者是个高中橄榄球教练……
FizVic109 赞2021/2/11
Incredibly, out of the current 177 comments, I haven't found a single T H I C C so here ya go. Interesting discussions nevertheless!
离谱的是,在目前这177条评论里,我居然一条关于
T H I C C(身材火辣)
的评论都没看到,所以给你们补上。
不过讨论的内容确实挺有意思的!
N00bsir301102 赞2021/2/11
More like a Pyrrhic victory. This destroyed any future possibilities for negotiations and the British would return with four times the fire power. That being said the Zulus gave the British 52 officer casualties that day.
The militaristic Zulu kingdom caused the deaths (genocide) of 1 to 2 million Africans, these are not a people that should be celebrated...
好战的祖鲁王国造成了100万到200万非洲人的死亡(种族灭绝),这些人根本不值得歌颂……
PhantomRoyce82 赞2021/2/11
You could say this about literally every nation
你这话用到世界上任何一个国家身上都成立。
timeforknowledge63 赞2021/2/11
Lol exactly that's what I would love people to realise. Just because you are X race or X country does not make your people any more righteous than anyone else. Everyone from every part of the world is sadly all as evil as each other. Saying British should pay for colonialism or still have shame for it means we also need to argue descendents of the Zulu Kingdom pay for the genocide, and then Russia, Japan, China, it's never ending and stupid. People need to stop treating it as a touchy subject, it happened its history accept it, learn from it and move on but you can't be offended by it.
I brought this up with someone shitting on Britain for slavery the other day. Tell me a nation of significance that wasn't involved with slavery? And Britain was shit for having slavery. As was anyone that has slaves. And Im not looking to whitewash this. But this view pushed increasingly over that last decade that a handful of todays successful nations are the epicentre of the worlds plight is simply ignorant of history and human nature the world over. And is isn't not helpful in moving forward in terms of we need to all get along, not build on old division + I suspect if people grow up being told their societies problems are them because of someone else and not their fault, they reduce their locus of control into facing and overcoming real issues.
This isn’t true actually, he himself did not lead any armies at the Battle of Isandlwanda
其实这不对,他在伊散德尔瓦纳战役中并没有亲自指挥任何军队。
4anon2anon066 赞2021/2/11
My man ate well, only a king looked like that
这哥们儿吃得真好,也就只有国王才长那副尊容。
Sean95122 赞2021/2/12
Yes, that's how you showed off your wealth and power. It's why Tevye in Fiddler on the Roof sings about his wife having a proper double chin.
没错,这才是显摆权势的正确姿势。难怪《屋顶上的小提琴手》里的特维会唱着他老婆那标志性的双下巴呢。
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He ate all of their supplies. Not just food, all of the supplies.
他把他们的补给全吃光了。不是说光吃完了食物,是把所有补给都给造了。
harrypodcast733 赞2021/2/11
And was absolutely steamrollered by the British at Ulundi less than six months later. That battle, resulting in the total defeat of the Zulu kingdom, lasted approximately one hour.
When its spears vs Gatling guns battle strategy will only get you so far. Considering the technological imbalance and the fact that the terrain limited chances at guerilla tactics its impressive they Zulu had even one successful battle.
Wow, the actor they got to play him in Zulu looked spot on.
哇,他们找来演他那个演员在《祖鲁战争》里看起来简直一模一样。
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negative_ev13 赞2021/2/11
Dude is thick, thick. Based on the chair this dudes thighs are enormous.
这哥们儿那是相当壮,壮得离谱。看看那把椅子,这哥们儿的大腿简直巨型。
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Ah yes, finally, a role model with my body type.
啊哈,终于来了,终于有个跟我身材一样的榜样了。
CilanEAmber11 赞2021/2/11
I've met some of this guy's descendants (or they claimed to be). A few members of the current Zulu Tribe travelled all the way to Bradford as part of a cultural exchange. My Dad went there. The best part was taking these people all the way to York to the National Railway Museum. Overall it was quite a fun time. My dad says he had fun meeting them too, but it was more fun not having him around.