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"千码凝视"——美国海军陆战队员西奥多·J·米勒被扶上军舰,瓜达尔卡纳尔岛,1942年

"千码凝视"——美国海军陆战队员西奥多·J·米勒被扶上军舰,瓜达尔卡纳尔岛,1942年

“千码凝视”(The Thousand Yard Stare)——美国海军陆战队二等兵西奥多·J·米勒(Theodore J. Miller)在埃尼威托克环礁经历激战后被搀扶上船。米勒于一个月后(1944年)阵亡。[640x505]

1944 · 27,882 赞 · 2020-09-01 · 88 条评论

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darkhelmet333,896 赞2020/9/2
These guys always looked like old men in books when I was a kid. Now he just looks like a kid to me.
我小时候看书,这帮人总是一副老头模样。现在再看,我觉得他也就是个小孩。
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He was 19 at the time of his death...
他去世的时候才19岁……
Behemoth-Slayer900 赞2020/9/2
Hey man, there was a time when 19 was an adult from most people's perspectives. I'm twenty-seven now, and the concept of all these kids going off to fight is horrifying to me. When I was their age and younger, I didn't see it in quite the same light.
哥们儿,在大多数人眼里,曾经19岁就是个成年人了。我现在二十七了,一想到这帮孩子要上战场,我就觉得毛骨悚然。但我像他们那么大或者更小的时候,对这事儿的看法可完全不是这样。
wannabechrispratt_405 赞2020/9/2
Most guys that enlist today are still 18. Many even 17 if they can work it out with the legal guardians. Hell there was a navy seals who passed buds when they were 17
现在入伍的大多数小伙子都才18岁。甚至很多人17岁就能去,只要能搞定监护人就行。见鬼,甚至还有个海豹突击队员17岁就过了BUD/S(海豹突击队基础水下爆破训练)。
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It’s crazy that in a lot of places you can sign up for war before you can buy a beer
真离谱,在很多地方,你还没到能买啤酒的年纪就能报名去打仗了。
wannabechrispratt_283 赞2020/9/2
In America you can sign up for war before you can buy a beer or a cigarette
在美国,你还没到能买啤酒或香烟的年纪,就能报名去打仗了。
ImOnRedditAndStuff94 赞2020/9/2
I'll do you one better. You can sign up for war before you're allowed to vote for the person sending you to war.
我再给你加码一条:你还没到法定投票年龄去选那个派你去打仗的人,就已经可以报名参军去打仗了。
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Yeah that was one of the places I was referring to haha
对啊,哈哈,这正是我提到的那些情况之一。
DG_GoldenBoy29 赞2020/9/2
What about the places that *force* conscription onto every citizen?
那那些强制全民服兵役的地方又怎么说呢?
Mortress_23 赞2020/9/2
If it was every citizen I would be fine with it, I hate it when it's only male citizens
要是所有公民都强制服役我倒也没意见,但我就烦那种只针对男性公民的规定。
DG_GoldenBoy18 赞2020/9/2
Why would you be okay with any forced draft? And why men *and* women?
你为啥会觉得任何形式的强制征兵没问题啊?而且为什么要加上女性?
bullsi34 赞2020/9/2
Not crazy, but more of incredibly stupid and insane to the point of disbelief
这倒算不上疯,纯粹是蠢到家了,简直让人无法相信。
stevil3036 赞2020/9/2
you need people to sign up who haven't figured out that it can happen to them. that comes with youth. no one (eh.. lets go with very few) would sign up knowing they would be dead inside of a year.
你得找那些还没意识到这种事会发生在自己身上的人来报名。年轻气盛嘛,这很正常。要是谁知道一年内就会死,肯定没几个(呃……咱严谨点,说极少数吧)会愿意去。
dutch_penguin15 赞2020/9/2
Only 2-3% of US soldiers died. So not good, but not like death is a certainty.
美国大兵的死亡率也就2-3%而已。确实不好,但也没到必死无疑的地步。
boyferret19 赞2020/9/2
As a older person, the way I have seen these things have evolved so much. When I was a kid I too marvel at there bravery. When I was older I thought about them fighting for their unit, or friends or what have you. Now all I can think about is the holes in their mothers and fathers hearts, and even the ones that returned, all the violence that was put in to the world. It breaks my heart now.
作为一个过来人,我看着这些事儿演变了这么多年,感触太深了。小时候我也对他们的英勇感到惊叹。再大一点儿的时候,我会觉得他们是在为自己的战友、兄弟或者什么别的信念而战。可现在,我满脑子想的都是他们父母心里的那个大窟窿,还有那些活着回来的人,这世界因为他们又多了多少暴力。现在想起来,心都要碎了。
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> When I was their age and younger, I didn't see it in quite the same light. That's why it works man. I remember being off with cadets at the black isle; I was sweet at iron targets; I could hit paper at whatever the range was we were tested at; on the simulated range I missed with every shot. That was the exact moment I decided me and the army were not going to be a good fit. Thank fuck for that little day out.
> 我在他们那个年纪甚至更小时,看待这些事的角度确实不太一样。 这就是为什么它管用,老兄。我记得在黑岛(Black Isle)跟军校学员们待在一起的时候,我打铁靶子准得一匹;不管测试的靶场距离多远,我打纸靶全都能中;结果在模拟靶场上,我愣是一发都没打中。 就是那一瞬间,我意识到我和军队这辈子是没戏了。真他妈感谢那次小小的外出经历。
eggequator33 赞2020/9/2
I remember in the early 2000s still being a teenager and first seeing all my older sisters friends going off to war then not long after my friends. We were all just kids not old enough to drink and buddies are coming back from ied attacks with shrapnel in their heads and bodies and brain injuries. I had a friend get blown up in a convoy and shot six times. The VA got him on morphine, oxy and Xanax with no drug counseling or supervision. He turned into such an addict. Lost his license but was 100% disabled anyways and had seizures from his tbi so he shouldn't have been driving anyways. His life was hell and I haven't had contact with him for years so I hope he's doing better. I had another friend who came home because he shot and killed a seven year old who ran towards them with a bag and didn't stop when they yelled at him to stop. However it went down he got dishonorably discharged and was rightfully seriously fucked up in the head about it. War is fucked up man. Thank God uncle Sam hates drugs so much, my juvenile cocaine charge was good enough to keep my stupid ass from signing up.
我记得那是21世纪初,我还是个十几岁的少年,先是看着我大姐的那些朋友奔赴战场,没过多久,身边的朋友也都去了。我们当时都还是些连酒都喝不了的孩子,结果哥们儿们从IED(简易爆炸装置)袭击中回来时,脑袋和身上全是弹片,脑子也受了重伤。 我有个朋友在车队里被炸飞,还身中六枪。退伍军人事务部(VA)给他开了吗啡、羟考酮和阿普唑仑,却没有任何戒毒咨询或监管。他彻底成了瘾君子。他驾照被吊销了,反正他那时候也因为创伤性脑损伤(TBI)导致癫痫发作,本来就不该开车。他的生活简直是地狱,我已经好几年没跟他联系了,希望他现在过得好点。 我还有个朋友退伍回家,因为他在战场上开枪打死了一个七岁小孩——那小孩提着个袋子朝他们跑过来,喊停也不听。不管当时具体是个什么情况,反正他被开除军籍了,心理上受了严重的创伤,这确实也正常。 战争这玩意儿真他妈扯淡。谢天谢地,山姆大叔那么痛恨毒品,我那点儿年少轻狂吸可卡因的前科,正好让我这蠢货没法去参军。
no_anesthesia_please156 赞2020/9/2
I’ve seen quite a few pics taken during the Korean War and WWII. Your comment just explained why I’ve been struck on a gut level by them. They’re all just kids man!
我看过不少朝鲜战争和二战时期的照片。你刚才的评论解释了为什么我看着这些照片时会有那种直击灵魂的震撼感。老兄,他们真的都还只是群孩子啊!
akashik79 赞2020/9/2
They still are. We had a kid not show up to work a few weeks ago. It turned out he decided to stay at home and kill himself instead. A Military Veteran, not much older than my daughter.
现在依然是这样。几周前我们这儿有个孩子没来上班。后来发现他决定待在家里自杀了。他是个退伍军人,比我女儿大不了多少。
ampfin5715 赞2020/9/2
This is so heartbreaking
这真的太让人心碎了。
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LamentableFool45 赞2020/9/2
Makes you wonder how can old fart politians sleep at night knowing they perpetually send children off to die for money.
这真让人纳闷,那些老东西政客们,明知自己为了钱不停地把孩子们送去送死,晚上到底是怎么睡得着的。
forgtmnot2746 赞2020/9/2
Easy, they sleep on the money
简单,他们根本不把钱当回事。
InspectorPipes35 赞2020/9/2
Because they are the sons of senators and congress people, or sons of slum lords with bone spurs. They have never been there. To them, war is statistics and charts.
因为他们都是参议员和国会议员的儿子,或者是那些靠“骨刺”逃兵役的房地产大亨的后代。他们从来没上过战场。对他们来说,战争不过就是一堆统计数字和图表。
2ndself15 赞2020/9/2
Came here to say the same thing. Fucking war man. Fuck.
我来这儿就是想说这一点的。这狗屁战争,真操蛋。
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Congratulations soldier you survived the claws of death. You got 2 weeks to get over it because you’re going back in!
恭喜你啊战士,你从死神爪下捡回了一条命。给你两周时间缓过劲儿来,因为你马上又要被送回去接着干了!
kennytucson453 赞2020/9/2
I just rewatched *The Pacific*, which partially follows John Basilone's exploits. Dude was awarded the Medal of Honor at Guadalcanal in the most absolute metal fucking way possible. Had a golden ticket to stay home and sell war bonds and bang actresses. Said screw it and fought and died at Iwo Jima. Crazy what these guys went through. Often willingly.
我刚重温了《太平洋战争》,里面讲了部分约翰·巴斯隆(John Basilone)的英勇事迹。这家伙在瓜达尔卡纳尔岛战役中拿到了荣誉勋章,那过程简直狂野到没边儿了。 他当时明明有张“免死金牌”,完全可以留在后方卖战争债券、睡女演员。但他偏不,非要跑去硫磺岛拼命,最后还战死在那儿了。这些人经历过的这一切真是太疯狂了。而且很多时候,他们还是自愿去的。
tall__guy226 赞2020/9/2
Is that the dude who fended off like 100 Japanese attackers while holding up the hot barrel of his machine gun with his bare hand?
是不是那个徒手拎着滚烫的机枪枪管,硬生生干掉了一百来个日本兵的猛男?
kennytucson202 赞2020/9/2
Yeah, same guy. The guy who gunned down so many Japanese at once, he had to leave cover to move the piles of bodies he dropped to give his buddies a more clear line of fire.
对,就是那个哥们。那个家伙一次性干掉了那么多日本人,最后不得不离开掩体去搬动他堆出来的尸体,好给他战友腾出清晰的射击视野。
SeryaphFR201 赞2020/9/2
That scene where he's just mowing them down and even his buddy looks over at him like "Good christ, you've just killed so many people" fucks me up every fucking time. I just can't imagine how you would not see that image every single time you close your eyes for the rest of your life.
那场他疯狂扫射的戏,连他战友看他的眼神都像是在说“天呐,你丫到底杀了多少人”,这一幕每次看都特么给我整破防了。 我真的无法想象,余生每当你闭上眼睛,脑子里怎么可能不去闪回那种画面。
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I’ll have to give The Pacific another try. I watched it once and was disappointed cause I loved Band of Brothers and The Pacific wasn’t exactly the same
我得再看一遍《血战太平洋》。当年我只看了一次,因为我太喜欢《兄弟连》了,觉得《血战太平洋》和它风格不太一样,所以当时挺失望的。
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csw26627 赞2020/9/2
The two theaters were very different. The tone is quite a bit heavier than BoB. Both are excellent though.
这两部剧的风格大相径庭。《太平洋战争》的基调比《兄弟连》(BoB)沉重得多。不过两部都是神作。
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svenhoek8620 赞2020/9/2
Band of Brothers is the story of Easy Company first and foremost which is why I preferred it. The Pacific felt like it was more focused on a few people and their experience in the war and at home. When people left the orbit of Easy company they were out of the show. You didn't see Bill back home dealing with missing a leg. Winters was arguably the "main" character and even he takes a backseat after his promotion. That's always been the major difference for me.
《兄弟连》归根结底讲的是“二连”(Easy Company)的故事,所以我个人更偏爱它。《太平洋战争》感觉更侧重于几个特定人物,以及他们从战场到家中的个人经历。只要有人脱离了二连的圈子,基本上就在剧中“下线”了。你根本看不到比尔(Bill)回到家后是怎么面对断腿残疾的。温特斯(Winters)可以说是这部剧的“核心”主角,可即便如此,他在晋升之后戏份也变少了。 对我来说,这始终是它们之间最大的区别。
Super_C_Complex16 赞2020/9/2
That's the thing about the Pacific theater. It was a meat grinder. Sledge served a long time. He wasn't even there at the beginning of the war though. In his book he discussed this. The book is called With The Old Breed. He said he was awed by the veterans then slowly he became one. There weren't really units that were trained together that stayed together in the Pacific. It was too brutal.
这就是太平洋战场的残酷之处。那简直就是个绞肉机。斯莱治(Sledge)服役了很长时间,但他甚至都没赶上战争刚开始的时候。 他在书里专门谈过这点。那本书叫《老兵长存》(With The Old Breed)。 他说自己一开始对那些老兵感到敬畏,后来慢慢地,他自己也成了他们中的一员。 在太平洋战场上,确实没怎么有那种从训练开始就一直在一起、之后还能完整待下去的部队。那里的环境太惨烈了。
sinkwiththeship30 赞2020/9/2
And Generation Kill is all about the longing for violence.
而《杀戮一代》(Generation Kill)整部剧讲的其实就是对暴力的渴望。
tipadis20 赞2020/9/2
And policing them moostaches. I heard godfather hisself say you looked like a bum.
还有整顿那些胡子。我听教父本人亲口说你看起来像个流浪汉。
StatOne19 赞2020/9/2
I've met some old WWII vets years ago. Those in the Pacific theater said some of the Japanese charges were indeed just like that scene. One commented he couldn't stand the sound of a sewing machine, as the stitching sound, and intermittence of checking the sewing line/pattern reminded him of the machine gun he used 'to mow them down, row by row'.
我多年前见过一些二战老兵。那些在太平洋战区待过的老兵说,有些日军的冲锋确实跟那一幕演的一模一样。其中一位说他忍受不了缝纫机的声音,因为那种缝纫的动静,还有检查缝线或花样时的那种断续声,会让他想起当年用机枪“一排排扫倒他们”的情景。
dutch_penguin18 赞2020/9/2
I wonder if dehumanization/racism helps. I know in Australia anti-japanese racism was huge over what they did.
我在想去人性化和种族主义是不是(在战争中)起了作用。我知道在澳大利亚,因为日本人干的那些事儿,反日种族主义情绪可是相当高涨的。
anotherworld1239 赞2020/9/2
Dehumanizing the enemy has been integral to war as long as war has existed. If soldiers see how much they have in common with the other side, they're much less likely to agree to kill them.
从有战争以来,将敌方去人性化一直都是战争的核心要素。如果士兵们意识到他们和对面有那么多相似之处,他们就很难下得去手杀人了。
Tough_Guys_Wear_Pink15 赞2020/9/2
Manila John did not fuck around.
“马尼拉·约翰”这哥们儿可不是好惹的。
MooseMalloy38 赞2020/9/2
The “what about the boys still at the front?” motivation is a strong one, even when you’ve done your duty already. IIRC, I read somewhere that, during the Hurtgen Forest campaign in the Fall of 1945, the US Army experienced a replacement shortage. Army psychiatrists were tasked with getting as many combat fatigued soldiers back into action as soon as possible. The best method they found way to play on the soldiers’ sense of guilt at having left their buddies to continue the fight without them. Many men who had no business going back to the front lines ended right back in that meat grinder. Often it did not end well. Often this process was used multiple times with the same soldier. This may be a myth, but apparently many of those Army psychiatrists also ended up having breakdowns. Take that for what it’s worth... the vague memories of some internet guy.
“那些还在前线苦战的弟兄们怎么办?”这种动力真的很强大,哪怕你其实已经尽过义务了。 如果我没记错的话,我以前在哪儿读到过,1945 年秋天许特根森林战役期间,美军兵力严重短缺。当时陆军的精神科医生被派去任务,要把那些患有战斗疲劳症的士兵尽快送回战场。他们发现最有效的法子,就是利用士兵们的负罪感,让他们觉得把战友丢在那儿继续拼命自己却撤了,心里过意不去。很多根本没能力再上战场的人,结果又被送回了那个绞肉机。结局往往都不怎么好。而且这招在同一个士兵身上还反复用过多次。 这事儿也可能是个传言,但据说不少陆军精神科医生最后自己也崩溃了。 这话也就听听吧……毕竟只是个网上路人的模糊记忆。
gamma646494 赞2020/9/2
You going home when the war is OVER!
等仗打完了你才能回家!
Stu16117 赞2020/9/2
people don't know how true this sentiment was among the brass in WWII my opa, a Scot, was captured at Dunkirk, spent 5 years in POW camps in Poland, escaped in 1945, and when he got back to the UK, was told he would be expected to ship out to the Pacific in a few weeks.
很多人根本不知道二战时军队高层对这种想法是有多执着。 我爷爷是个苏格兰人,他在敦刻尔克被俘,在波兰的战俘营里蹲了 5 年。1945 年他逃了出来,结果刚回到英国,就接到通知说让他准备几周后出发去太平洋战场。
alexabc1504 赞2020/9/2
Poor guy. I've seen this photo a few times but never knew he died.
真可怜。这张照片我见过好几次了,但从来不知道他已经去世了。
invisiblette495 赞2020/9/2
So young. That is the face of someone just out of high school.
太年轻了。这明明就是一张刚高中毕业的脸。
Roofofcar201 赞2020/9/2
He was 19 in this photo.
他拍这张照片的时候才19岁。
invisiblette69 赞2020/9/2
2 years out of high school. Incredibly telling, and incredibly sad.
刚高中毕业两年。这信息量太大了,也真是让人唏嘘。
r0botdevil86 赞2020/9/2
>2 years out of high school Even less, probably. Nearly everyone I knew turned 18 before graduation.
>刚高中毕业两年 可能还不止两年呢。我认识的人基本毕业前就都满18了。
dvoigt41247 赞2020/9/2
My father ran away from home to join the Navy, and lied about his age as had just turned 17. He ended up being a gunners mate on the USS Nashville. Participated in the largest naval battle of all time, the battle of Leyte gulf. He was almost ripped in half, a scar from his belly button, going around to his back, several months later when a kamikaze hit his ship. 6 months in an Hawaiian Hospital , then back on the ship. He rarely ever talked about his time in WW2. I miss him
我爸当年离家出走去参了海军,因为刚满17岁,他还谎报了年龄。后来他成了“纳什维尔号”巡洋舰上的一名炮手。他参加了史上规模最大的海战——莱特湾海战。几个月后,一架神风特攻队飞机撞上了他的船,他差点儿被拦腰截断,伤疤从肚脐一直绕到了后背。他在夏威夷的医院躺了6个月,然后又回到了船上。他很少提起二战时期的经历。我很想他。
Eviledy21 赞2020/9/2
My dad joined when he was 17 he had to have his parents signature and his high school let him graduate early. If he had waited till he was 18 he would not have been able to choose which branch he could join. He joined in 1943.
我爸17岁那年就入伍了,当时他还得找父母签字,高中也让他提前毕业了。要是他等到18岁再入伍,就没法自己挑想去的兵种了。他是1943年进去的。
pileon422 赞2020/9/2
Sadly, he never made it off of those strategically-insignificant clusters of coral rock. He was KIA roughly a month after the photo, on Ebon Atoll. Semper Fi, Private Miller. The world remembers you over 76 years later, with gratitude.
令人难过的是,他再也没能从那些毫无战略价值的珊瑚礁群上活着回来。就在这张照片拍完大约一个月后,他在埃邦环礁(Ebon Atoll)阵亡了。永远忠诚(Semper Fi),米勒二等兵。76年过去了,世界依然铭记着你,并对你心怀感激。
bonertable21 赞2020/9/2
also did you know he was KIA about a month after this photo was taken?
还有,你知道吗?这张照片拍完大概一个月,他就阵亡了。
SnooDonuts8606336 赞2020/9/2
This is what PTSD does, you experience something so traumatic that your brain in an effort to save itself pushes almost everything out of you, even the parts that make you you and leaves what feels like a hollow shell.
这就是PTSD(创伤后应激障碍)的后果,你经历了一些极其痛苦的创伤,大脑为了自我保护,会把几乎所有的东西都排挤出去,甚至包括那些构成“你自己”的部分,最后只留下一个感觉像是空壳的东西。
OpanaPointer183 赞2020/9/2
However, the clinical definition of PTSD is that the symptoms continue for more than thirty days post event, hence "*POST* TRAUMATIC". Check the DSM-(whatever the current number is.) Line doggie is suffering from fatigue and shock, but it hasn't progressed to PTSD yet.
不过,PTSD的临床定义是症状在事件发生后持续超过三十天,所以才叫“*创伤后*(POST TRAUMATIC)”应激障碍。去查查DSM(精神疾病诊断与统计手册,不管现在出到第几版了)吧。这只前线作战犬现在是处于疲劳和休克状态,但还没发展到PTSD的程度。
SnooDonuts860695 赞2020/9/2
Never had a chance to progress to it.
它根本就没机会发展到那个程度。
FactuaIIyLacking73 赞2020/9/2
It's a technicality. Before 30 days it's just called acute stress disorder, but the exact same symptoms get a new name when they last for that 30+ day duration.
这纯粹是钻字眼。在30天以内,这只能叫急性应激障碍,但只要症状持续超过30天,同样的东西就会换个名字。
Sparecash15 赞2020/9/2
This guy psychologies
这哥们儿是个心理学大佬啊。
Rethaptrix72 赞2020/9/2
I've always struggled with affirming my own PTSD from childhood trauma vs the ptsd combat vets the world over. Like I can understand the symptoms but don't feel like I qualify by comparison. I don't know, but I've always felt heart ache for the plight of combat vets.
我一直很纠结,不知道该不该承认我童年创伤导致的PTSD,毕竟比起全世界那些战场上的老兵,我总觉得差点意思。虽然我能理解这些症状,但总觉得跟他们比起来,我好像不够格。我也不知道,但我一直都挺心疼那些老兵的处境的。
Rusty_Shacklefoord56 赞2020/9/2
Nobody has a monopoly on legitimate trauma.
没人有权垄断“合情合理”的创伤。
Helicopterrepairman118 赞2020/9/2
As someone with PTSD from combat i feel for you. It doesn't matter what it's from, it can hurt just as bad. Fuck anyone who says different. Stay strong
作为一个有过战斗创伤后应激障碍(PTSD)的人,我感同身受。创伤的来源根本不重要,那种痛苦都是一样的钻心。 谁要是敢说别的,去他妈的。一定要挺住。
Rethaptrix24 赞2020/9/2
Thank you very much that means a lot.
太感谢你了,这话对我来说意义重大。
J-Vito67 赞2020/9/2
Trauma is trauma, doesn’t matter who it happens to.
创伤就是创伤,不管发生在谁身上都一样。
avec_serif44 赞2020/9/2
Childhood trauma can be a lot worse than wartime PTSD. With trauma experienced as an adult, at least you (ideally) have a solid foundation of personhood from which to try to deal with it. For trauma experienced as a child, particularly ongoing abuse from a caregiver, you grow up with the trauma and it can become a much deeper part of who you are.
童年创伤可能比战争导致的 PTSD 严重得多。对于成年后经历的创伤,你至少(理想情况下)拥有一个稳固的自我人格基础,可以用来尝试应对它。但对于童年创伤,尤其是来自抚养者的持续性虐待,你是带着创伤长大的,它更容易深入骨髓,成为你人格的一部分。
Rethaptrix17 赞2020/9/2
That makes a lot of sense, it's always been an issue I've dealt with, even as an unknowing child. Thanks man.
这话太有道理了,这确实一直是我在面对的问题,甚至在我小时候懵懂无知时就是这样。谢了哥们。
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Your PTSD is just as relevant as someone's PTSD from combat. ❤
你的创伤后应激障碍(PTSD)和那些从战场上回来的人遭受的创伤是一样值得重视的。❤
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The brain can only process so much. Once, while watching an Iraqi taking out trash in the hospital (Doing the glorious job of escort duty while in Iraq) , a helicopter lands and some folks rush out with a stretcher. I would say they ran past me, but I quickly excused myself from their course and just watched. They proceeded to pick up this kid who was charred head to toe from the stretcher and put him on the hospital bed. Got to watch and his skin just fell out, and...Yeah...that was enough for me.. Walked outside to see them washing out the blood from the helicopter before taking off again. Aside from that, I saw someone get blown into dust from a missile. That was "fun". A friend of mine (in afghan - different deployment) got his face blown off after we swapped shifts...That was a tough one.. And then you got the guys that are really in the shit...Then you have folks like the guy in OP's pic. In short, its hard to really define this kind of stare. Its their, and most of us luckier folks can just not think about things. But the memories are always there...Burned into your retinas. Shit you will never forget, as it was that one time your brain just "noped" the fuck out. EDIT: I think in a few comments I mentioned the kid's village got blown up..It was their family home...whole family killed, he "survived" until he later died...shit sucks.
人脑的承受能力是有极限的。有一次,我在医院看着一个伊拉克人在倒垃圾(当时我在伊拉克执行光荣的护送任务),一架直升机降落了,几个人抬着担架冲了出来。我本想说他们是从我身边跑过去的,但我赶紧躲开了他们的路径,只是站在一旁看着。他们把那个从头到脚都被烧焦的孩子从担架上抬下来,放到了病床上。我亲眼看着他的皮就那么掉了下来,然后……没错……那对我来说已经够了。 我走到外面,看着他们把直升机里的血迹冲洗干净,准备再次起飞。除此之外,我还亲眼看着一个人被导弹炸成了灰。那可真是“有意思”。我的一个朋友(在阿富汗——不同的部署任务)在我们换班后脸就被炸飞了……那件事真的很难熬。 然后还有那些真正深陷泥潭的兄弟们……再看看像发帖人照片里那样的家伙。简而言之,很难真正定义这种眼神。那是属于他们的,而我们大多数幸运的人只是不去想这些事。但那些记忆一直都在……深深烙在你的视网膜上。那些你永远无法忘怀的烂事,因为那是你的大脑彻底“罢工”、想都不敢想的那一刻。 编辑:我在几条评论里提到过那个孩子的村子被炸了……那是他们的家……全家都被杀了,他“幸存”了下来,但后来还是死了……这世道真操蛋。
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I can't look at this picture for more than a couple of seconds. Like he is looking at me and I can see what he saw. I just have to look away.
这张照片我连几秒钟都看不了。感觉他正盯着我,我能看到他曾经看到的一切。我只能赶紧把目光移开。
kitatatsumi67 赞2020/9/2
God that fucking sucks, survive hell and get dragged aboard only to be killed a month later doing the same shit. It’s like shark-finning but without the soup.
天哪,这他妈简直烂透了,在地狱里幸存下来,刚被拉上船,结果一个月后又为了同样那破事儿送了命。这就像是在割鱼翅,只不过这回没鱼翅汤喝。
audacesfortunajuvat47 赞2020/9/2
He and one other Marine were killed taking Ebon Atoll. From the history of the U.S. Marine Corps in World War 2: >Once this objective was secured, the two forces parted company as planned. Shisler’s men landed at Ebon Atoll on the morning of 23 March and, on the following day, killed 17 Japanese in a vicious fight that cost the lives of two Marines. Six enemy noncombatants were taken into custody. Ebon Atoll had a population at the time of 500 or so people, is about 2 miles of land, was garrisoned by 25 or so Japanese troops and taken in a firefight that lasted 20 minutes it seems. Mind boggling that 19 people lost their lives over a speck of land in the Pacific, thousands of miles from their homes, with nothing on it of military value.
他和另外一名海军陆战队员是在攻占埃邦环礁时阵亡的。摘自二战美国海军陆战队史: >一旦该目标被拿下,两支部队便按计划分道扬镳。 希斯勒(Shisler)的部下于3月23日清晨登陆埃邦环礁,并在次日的一场恶战中击毙了17名日军,此战也让两名海军陆战队员付出了生命的代价。另有6名敌方非战斗人员被俘。 当时的埃邦环礁约有500名居民,陆地面积仅2英里左右,驻扎着大约25名日军,而且似乎只用了20分钟的交火就拿下了。真让人难以置信,为了太平洋上一块芝麻大的地儿,距离家乡几千里远,且没有任何军事价值的地方,竟有19个人丢了性命。
the__6-1-4__44 赞2020/9/2
He passed a month after turning 19. Probably didn't even realize or care it was his birthday around the time this photo was taken...considering he was a Pvt. too he probably enlisted and got shipped right from boot. Until Valhalla Pvt Miller.
他在刚满19岁一个月后就牺牲了。照片拍的时候,他大概都没意识到也不在乎那天是他生日吧……考虑到他还是个二等兵,他多半是刚入伍就被直接派上前线了。英灵殿见,米勒二等兵。
Bednars_lovechild6943 赞2020/9/2
This looks like the face used by Dan Carlin in the last few episodes of Blueprint for Armageddon
这看起来像是丹·卡林(Dan Carlin)在《末日蓝图》(Blueprint for Armageddon)最后几集里用的那张人脸照片。
flyersfan258819 赞2020/9/2
Carlin has cited “On Killing” by Dave Grossmann a few times too, and this picture is on the paperback cover
卡林也曾好几次提到戴夫·格罗斯曼(Dave Grossman)写的《论杀人》(On Killing)这本书,而这张照片就在平装版的封面上。
twosticks10130 赞2020/9/2
Growing up my dad didn’t give me a ton of advice, or maybe I just don’t remember, but I do remember him getting very serious and telling me not to ever date a guy with the thousand yard stare. I didn’t understand at the time and it wasn’t until years later that I realized what he meant. The day I learned what the 1000 yard stare looked like was also the day I recognized that my dad had terrible PTSD from serving in Vietnam and that he was all too familiar with this look.
我小时候,我爸没给过我什么特别多的建议,又或者是我记不清了,但我确实记得他曾一脸严肃地告诫我,千万别跟那种眼神空洞呆滞(thousand yard stare)的男人谈恋爱。当时我完全没懂他在说什么,直到多年后我才反应过来。就在我明白什么叫“眼神空洞”的那一天,我也意识到我爸患有严重的战后创伤后遗症(PTSD),那是他在越战服役时留下的,而且他本人对这种眼神再熟悉不过了。
Diplodocus11428 赞2020/9/2
Looks like pure shock. What those brave young guys went through.
看起来完全是处于极度震惊的状态。这些勇敢的年轻人当年到底经历了些什么啊。
BigOwll25 赞2020/9/2
Felt like he was staring into my soul, barely got to experience life, sad.
感觉他就像是在直视我的灵魂一样,还没来得及好好体验人生,真令人难过。
oh-no-godzilla16 赞2020/9/2
What gets me, and this is self evident, but what gets me is that this was it for that fellow. His one chance at this strange occurrence we call life. His only shot at marriage, a family, grandchildren, an old man's leisure and wisdom. But none was to come for him, and never will. A man of healthy mind and body, born into modern times, whose life was, what, squandered? At least shamefully unrealized. And that was his only chance.
最让我揪心的是——这虽然显而易见,但最让我揪心的是——这哥们儿的一辈子就这么完了。在这场名为“人生”的奇妙旅程里,这可是他仅有的一次机会啊。他本该有那唯一一次结婚、组建家庭、含饴弄孙、享受晚年安逸与智慧的机会。但这一切他都没能赶上,以后也永远没戏了。一个身心健康的汉子,生在现代社会,结果他的人生就这么……怎么说呢,被挥霍了?至少也是活得够憋屈、够窝囊的。而那真的是他唯一的机会了。
ZombieCharltonHeston14 赞2020/9/2
[The "Marlboro Marine" photo from Iraq was also a guy named Miller.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blake_Miller)
[那张伊拉克战争里的“万宝路海军陆战队员”照片,照片里那哥们儿也叫米勒。](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blake_Miller)
columbusdoctor14 赞2020/9/2
The marines in the Pacific theater fought with a foe that would rather die than surrender. They gave no quarter, beheaded many prisoners, even ate the liver of one American. After the introduction to their atrocities, the Americans did the same. You can't blame them.
在太平洋战场上,海军陆战队员们面对的是一群宁死不降的死敌。他们从不留活口,砍下过不少俘虏的脑袋,甚至还吃过一个美国人的肝。在见识过对方的这些暴行之后,美国人也开始以牙还牙。这事儿你真没法怪他们。
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Poor kid, he deserved a break after that, not getting killed...
可怜的孩子,他经历过那种地狱后本该休息一下的,而不是丢了性命……
Rella1710 赞2020/9/2
I work with homeless vets, some never loose this stare.
我平时跟那些无家可归的退伍老兵共事,有些人那双眼睛里的神情永远也消散不去。
iamchipdouglas10 赞2020/9/2
Read “**With the Old Breed**” by EB Sledge; partially the inspiration for HBO’s *The Pacific*. One of the great war accounts of all time. You would be a teenage kid, *barely* make it out of a beach landing without dying, and they would just keep shipping you onto the next landing, and the next, and the next. For many infantry Marines, enlistment was almost certain death
去读读 E.B. Sledge 写的《老兵长存》(With the Old Breed);HBO 那部《太平洋战争》的部分灵感就来源于此。这是史上最伟大的战争实录之一。 你还是个毛头小子,刚从滩头登陆战里捡回一条命,他们就会把你源源不断地送去下一场登陆战,再下一场,没完没了。对于许多海军陆战队的步兵来说,入伍几乎等同于领了张死亡通知单。
Ourlifeisdank10 赞2020/9/2
Quite a contrast from the military propaganda we have today.
这跟我们今天看到的军事宣传简直是天差地别。
prolveg9 赞2020/9/2
can everyone boycott war? Let the politicians go fight their own damn battles.
大家能不能抵制战争啊?让那些政客自己去打他们该死的仗吧。
ThePyrotechnist9 赞2020/9/2
Let us not forget the sacrifice of this man and his brothers in arms...
让我们永远铭记这位英雄和他战友们的牺牲……
Dream_thats_a_pippin8 赞2020/9/2
Oh my god. He looks just like someone I know. Fuck wars.
我的天呐。他看起来简直和我认识的一个人一模一样。去他妈的战争。
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