如今已完全开发的拉斯维加斯大道，1955年
1955年的拉斯维加斯大道，当时还是如今完全开发前的模样。[494 x 492]
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NervousAndPantless2,915 赞2020/8/2
1955年花一百万买块荒地？看着也太贵了吧！
NerimaJoe1,475 赞2020/8/2
$29,000,000 in today's dollars.
换算成今天的钱就是2900万美元。
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Just round up to one billion.
直接四舍五入凑个十亿得了。
Novocaine0192 赞2020/8/2
Now it doesn't sound like much
这么一说，好像也没多少嘛。
selddir_249 赞2020/8/3
Yeah that's barely 0.05 Bezos
是啊，那甚至连贝索斯的 0.05 都算不上。
Novocaine0241 赞2020/8/3
Yeah. Hell even I am closer to 1 billion than Bezos is.
可不是嘛。见鬼，甚至连我都比贝索斯更接近 10 亿身家。
selddir_113 赞2020/8/3
That's a shower thought right there
这想法真是够“淋浴时刻”（shower thought）的。
WolfsLairAbyss46 赞2020/8/3
It's been done. Many times.
这玩意儿早就有人做过了。而且做了不止一次。
selddir_34 赞2020/8/3
Well to be fair according to almost every single thought has been posted there a million times. Have you ever tried to get a post through on that sub? It's hell.
嗯，平心而论，按照
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I've been banned for being unoriginal
我就是因为被判定为“缺乏原创性”给封了。
KnownMonk16 赞2020/8/3
That's 1 billion bottle caps
那得是10亿个瓶盖吧。
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I always like telling the story of Yogi Berra (yankees legend) and the land he bought in Florida. Him and a bunch of other Yankee players (Mickey Mantle included) were talked into buying plots of land in Florida. It was only after they bought the land that they realized it was essentially swamp land that would be a huge pain to develop. They had bought in at $30 an acre for useless land Around 64, a man named MT Lott started asking some of the players to sell. He was offering $150 an acre. Since most saw this as a huge payoff for land they didn’t want, they sold. But yogi kept it. He was suspicious of why this guy was offering sooooo much more for swampland. Turns out...MT Lott was a cover. It was Disney, buying up land for what would become Disney World. Yogi held firm and finally took an offer of $300,000 per acre. Just another cool “useless” land story Edit: https://www.nj.com/hudson/2017/09/how_yogi_berra_turned_real_estate_swindling_into_d.html
我一直很喜欢讲尤吉·贝拉（洋基队的传奇人物）和他当初在佛罗里达买地的那段故事。
那时候，他和一堆洋基队的队友（包括米奇·曼托）被人忽悠着在佛罗里达买了地。直到买完他们才发现，那地方基本就是片沼泽地，想开发起来简直是个噩梦。他们当时花了每英亩30美元买了一堆废地。
大概在64年的时候，有个叫MT·洛特（MT Lott）的人开始找这些球员，想把地买过来。他开价每英亩150美元。因为大多数人觉得这是块烫手山芋，现在能大赚一笔简直是天上掉馅饼，于是就全卖了。但尤吉没卖。他觉得很奇怪，为什么这家伙会愿意花高出那么多的价钱来买一片烂沼泽。
结果证明……MT·洛特只是个幌子。背后其实是迪士尼，他们当时正在秘密收购土地，准备建迪士尼世界。尤吉坚持没松口，最后以每英亩30万美元的价格成交。
又一个关于“废地”的酷故事。
编辑：
https://www.nj.com/hudson/2017/09/how_yogi_berra_turned_real_estate_swindling_into_d.html
srslybr0182 赞2020/8/3
MT Lott sounds suspiciously like empty lot...
MT Lott 这名字听起来怎么那么像“空地”（empty lot）啊……
Petrichordates82 赞2020/8/3
Wow you cracked their code.
哇，你这都被你参透了。
DrDetectiveEsq26 赞2020/8/3
Maybe that's why he became a land developer?
搞不好他就是因为这个才去搞房地产开发的吧？
Cereborn35 赞2020/8/3
So I guess Yogi Berra was smarter than we give him credit for.
所以我猜尤吉·贝拉确实比我们想象中要精明得多。
_-__J__-_43 赞2020/8/3
Smarter than the average Berra.
比一般的贝拉（Berra）还要聪明。
crazyfingersculture217 赞2020/8/2
That's how they kept those who they didn't want in Vegas from purchasing any land. The mafia via the highways and trucking unions helped build Vegas. They had a very special criteria to loan and develop before selling any land... and not to just anybody.
这就是他们当初不让那些他们不想见到的人在拉斯维加斯买地的方法。黑手党通过高速公路和卡车运输工会帮着建起了拉斯维加斯。他们在卖地之前有一套非常特别的贷款和开发标准……可不是随随便便卖给什么人的。
Canadian_Infidel53 赞2020/8/3
That's fascinating. Can you point to any documentaries or anything?
这太有意思了。你能推荐几部纪录片或者别的什么相关资料吗？
dalek_99957 赞2020/8/3
If you ever go to Vegas, there’s a great Mob Museum there.
如果你有机会去拉斯维加斯，那儿有个很棒的黑帮博物馆。
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Crashbrennan23 赞2020/8/3
Don't they have the actual wall from the Valentines Day Massacre?
他们那儿是不是还存着情人节大屠杀现场的那面墙？
dalek_99919 赞2020/8/3
Yep! It’s behind a glass wall, and the bullet holes are clearly marked. There’s a lot of neat stuff there - I’m not really into the mob or it’s history, but I found it all pretty interesting, and it was a good way to spend an afternoon.
是的！就在玻璃墙后面，弹孔都标得清清楚楚的。
那儿有很多挺酷的玩意儿——我其实对黑帮或者黑帮历史没啥兴趣，但我觉得整个馆逛下来还挺有意思的，是个消磨下午时光的好去处。
Hateful_Face_Licking94 赞2020/8/3
Take a look at the history of the Moulin Rouge Casino. Las Vegas actually abolished segregation four years before it became abolished nationally.
去看看红磨坊赌场（Moulin Rouge Casino）的历史吧。拉斯维加斯在全美废除种族隔离政策的四年前，就已经先行废除了。
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To be fair the less people wasting all of their money on gambling in your casinos the less money you earn
说句公道话，在你的赌场里烧钱的人越少，你赚到的钱自然就越少。
Hateful_Face_Licking34 赞2020/8/3
It had more to do with allowing fair employment for the Black workers after the Moulin Rouge shut down.
这更多是关于在红磨坊赌场倒闭后，保障黑人劳工的公平就业权的问题。
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Overall segregation hurts capitalism.
总的来说，隔离政策对资本主义是有害的。
abadmudder16 赞2020/8/3
If you’re into reading, I’d highly recommend Casino by Nicholas Pileggi, Blood Aces by Doug Swanson, and The Gambler by William Rempel.
如果你喜欢阅读，我强烈推荐尼古拉斯·派勒吉（Nicholas Pileggi）的《赌城风云》（Casino）、道格·斯旺森（Doug Swanson）的《王牌血战》（Blood Aces），还有威廉·伦佩尔（William Rempel）的《赌徒》（The Gambler）。
Bammer138626 赞2020/8/3
Exactly, I'm from LV and the mob history surrounding its development is insane. In fact, I've heard from old timers that were around before the Strip was a thing that Vegas was actually a better place when the Mob ran things vs today when corporations run things. The mob actually cared about the community, corps dont give a shit.
没错，我是拉斯维加斯本地人，围绕这座城市发展的那段黑帮历史简直疯狂。事实上，我听那些在拉斯维加斯大道还没成气候时就在这儿的老人们说过，比起现在由大公司掌权的日子，当年的黑帮治下反倒是个更好的地方。黑帮其实还挺在意社区的，那些大公司才不在乎呢。
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Criminal organizations need the community on their sides, otherwise its too expensive and risky to operate through fear. Corporations on the other hand have a litigation war chest and lobbying to shield them from responsibility.
犯罪组织需要社区站在他们那边，否则光靠恐吓来运作，成本太高，风险也太大。反观大公司，他们有专门打官司的“战争基金”和游说团，能帮他们规避责任。
midloth-crisis70 赞2020/8/2
This was a good deal to allow organized crime to wash money through legitimate businesses. Most mobsters were locked up for tax evasion, not murder.
这是一笔好买卖，能让有组织犯罪通过合法企业洗钱。大部分黑帮分子被抓都是因为逃税，而不是因为谋杀。
chaandra23 赞2020/8/3
Most mobsters don’t commit murder themselves, and it’s hard to link back. Tax evasion and money laundering is a necessary step in organized crime.
大多数黑帮分子自己不动手杀人，而且很难查到他们头上。逃税和洗钱是有组织犯罪必不可少的一环。
nomadofwaves47 赞2020/8/2
At first I read $3,000 and was like damn that’s not bad. Then I realized $3m and had the same though as you.
起初我看到 3000 美元的时候，心想：我靠，这价格还行啊。后来才发现是 300 万，想法瞬间和你一样了。
1,508 赞2020/8/2
你没看到的是当时已经建好的拉斯维加斯大道。这张照片选的角度就是为了避开它。那时候那儿已经有很多赌场了，所以地价当然贵。
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It was more like 10 properties on the Strip by end of 1955.
到 1955 年底的时候，大道上差不多有 10 家酒店物业了。
23 赞2020/8/3
What's interesting is that Las Vegas Blvd (IE the strip) extends almost all the way to California. There are some nice places to go target shooting off of this road well south of the last casino, the M. I wonder how much more development will take place over the next 60 years along the strip?
有意思的是，拉斯维加斯大道（也就是 Strip）几乎一直延伸到了加州边境。在过了最后一家赌场“M”往南很远的地方，这条路边上还有些很不错的打靶场。我在想，往后 60 年，这条大道沿线还会搞出多大的开发规模来？
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17 赞2020/8/2
Whenever I have a conference in Vegas, I make sure that my request for approval as well as all the expense reports say "Clark County" instead of Vegas. Probably makes no difference but the office ladies might be less jealous.
每次我要去拉斯维加斯开会，我都会特意在审批申请和报销单上把地点写成“克拉克县”（Clark County）而不是拉斯维加斯。虽说可能没啥区别，但办公室那帮娘们儿（office ladies）看着兴许能少嫉妒点儿。
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Plus, you get the sightly used hood of a 1941 Chevy
再说了，你还能顺便瞅见块 1941 年雪佛兰车头盖，成色还挺新。
216 赞2020/8/2
有个冷知识：拉斯维加斯大道其实并不在拉斯维加斯市中心。当初特意把它修在行政区划外，就是为了避开那些建筑限令。
69 赞2020/8/2
I thought the it was more that the mob convinced their friends in government to make the Strip its own county to avoid gambling laws
我之前一直以为是因为黑帮找了政府里的哥们儿，把拉斯维加斯大道（the Strip）划成了独立县，好绕开赌博法规呢。
25 赞2020/8/2
Nah, gambling laws are the same on and off the strip.
不，不管是大道上还是大道外，赌博法规都是一样的。
160 赞2020/8/2
“……那是个伟人，一个有远见有胆识的人。可结果呢？这镇子上连块牌子、路标或者雕像都没有！”
46 赞2020/8/2
I see you are a man of culture Mr. Roth
我看出来了，你是个懂行的人啊，罗斯先生。
21 赞2020/8/3
This is the business we've chosen!
这就是我们选择干的买卖！
102 赞2020/8/2
为啥这么贵？
62 赞2020/8/3
**这是张充满误导性的旧图重发。**
只要换个角度拍，你就能看到当时拉斯维加斯这座城市已经扩张得非常迅速了，到处都在搞建设。很明显，那里集合了气候（少雨、泳池多）、娱乐（离好莱坞仅几小时车程）以及合法赌博等各种优势，毕竟当时想玩赌博不用再跑去古巴了。
至于这块地当时到底有没有以那个价格成交，还是只是投机者在圈地潮里的虚报，至今还没人确证。我如果没记错的话，有人考证过这地儿离当时的其他赌场远得很。这就好比明明住在新泽西州的卡姆登，却非要说自己住在“费城地区”。
40 赞2020/8/3
在莫哈韦沙漠巡逻，真是让人巴不得来场核冬天。
24 赞2020/8/3
冷知识：拉斯维加斯这些年的扩张速度太离谱了，经常有开发项目因为挖出黑帮以前埋的尸体被迫叫停——要知道那时候这地方离市区还要开40分钟车，完全就是荒郊野岭。
20 赞2020/8/3
>Fun fact: Las Vegas has grown so exponentially over the years that construction on subdevelopments keep getting halted because they keep finding the remains of people buried by the mob back when it was the middle of the desert a 40 minute drive from the city. Got a link to proof this isn't an urban myth?
有趣的事实：拉斯维加斯这些年扩张得太猛了，导致不少住宅开发项目的施工进度老是搁浅，因为他们总能在那些曾经是荒漠（离市区开车还得40分钟）的地界里，挖出当年黑帮埋的尸体。
有链接能证明这不是都市传说吗？
23 赞2020/8/2
折合到现在大概得有880万美元了。
18 赞2020/8/2
Which makes it a VERY good deal
At the time the picture was taken. Hotel sites are worth hundreds of millions there now
这反而让它成了一笔超划算的交易。
指拍照当时的情况。现在那儿的酒店地皮可都价值好几亿了。
23 赞2020/8/2
Maybe not right now, hehe. But 6 months ago yes.
可能现在不是了，嘿嘿。但半年前确实是。
16 赞2020/8/2
Bitcoin was a very good deal years ago when it was trading at $600, but just like an empty desert plot, speculative assets are only considered a good buy in retrospect.
几年前比特币才600刀的时候绝对是个超划算的买卖，但就像一片荒无人烟的空地一样，投机性资产只有在事后回看时，才会被觉得是捡到了便宜。
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20 赞2020/8/3
今日学到：拉斯维加斯大道比我预想的要年轻得多。
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Overwriting the comment that was here.
把之前留在这儿的评论给覆盖掉。
16 赞2020/8/2
There will be a lot of bodies buried out there 20 years later..
20年后，在那儿不知道得埋下多少尸体（意指血本无归的人）。
11 赞2020/8/3
Here's what a drive down the Vegas strip looked like in 1955. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovVEojZFUA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovVEojZFUA)
这就是1955年开车沿拉斯维加斯大道行驶时的样子。
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovVEojZFUA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovVEojZFUA)
9 赞2020/8/3
The forties and fifties infrastructure projects were inspiring. Terrifying in their power but awesome nonetheless. Whole cities and industries within a matter of years from nothing. I think we should be doing projects as grand as these to mitigate the pandemic. We've got the manpower, with tens of millions unemployed, that's for sure. And the money has been shown to be in ample supply with even greater demand.
四五十年代的基础设施项目真是令人振奋。虽然它们展现出的力量令人胆寒，但依然让人叹为观止。短短几年内，就能从无到有建起整座城市和工业体系。我觉得我们应该搞些像当年那样宏大的工程来缓解疫情的影响。我们的人力绝对没问题，毕竟有几千万人失业呢，这点是肯定的。而且事实也证明了，钱这东西从来都不缺，甚至需求比供给还大得多。
9 赞2020/8/2
How much for the car hood?
那车前盖卖多少钱？
6 赞2020/8/3
Patrolling the Mojave makes ya wish for a nuclear winter.
在莫哈韦沙漠巡逻，真是让人巴不得来场核冬天。
4 赞2020/8/3
Did Vegas happen because it made sense or because so much peoples money as Invested it NEEDED to happen?
拉斯维加斯的出现是因为它合乎情理，还是因为砸了太多钱进去，所以它“非得”存在不可？
3 赞2020/8/3
Thanks to the mob.
全靠黑帮那帮家伙。
3 赞2020/8/3
Everything was empty... until the mob came.
原本空无一人……直到那群暴民涌了进来。
2 赞2020/8/3
3 mill, and 00 cents. Because 02 cents would be a deal breaker!
三百万，连一分钱都没有。因为要是多出两分钱那可就没法谈了！
2 赞2020/8/3
So could someone run me down on the history of Las Vegas?
有人能给我讲讲拉斯维加斯的历史吗？
2 赞2020/8/3
Sounds like a lot ... until you learn it was for 200,000 square miles
听起来确实挺多……但当你发现它覆盖了20万平方英里时，就不会这么想了。
2 赞2020/8/3
I see a can of Nuka Cola. This is post apocalypse Fallout Las Vegas. How did they take the photo without the extreme radiation from the fallout degrading and ruining the film?
我看到一罐核子可乐（Nuka Cola）。这简直是《辐射：新维加斯》那种末世废土啊。他们是怎么在强辐射的废土环境中拍照而没让底片被毁掉的？
1 赞2020/8/3
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1 赞2020/8/3
Damn can someone make a coloured version of this
靠，谁能搞个这玩意的彩色版出来啊
1 赞2020/8/3
What is bezos?
Bezos 是什么鬼？