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《逃亡》,1958年

《逃亡》,1958年

《逃跑》(The Runaway),1958年

1958 · 20,878 赞 · 2020-07-20 · 56 条评论

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Aerovoid1,350 赞2020/7/20
What an amazing colourization. I Love the colour choices. Awesome work as always.
这上色效果太惊艳了。我超爱这些配色。一如既往的牛逼。
giulianosse333 赞2020/7/21
There's something oddly charming about these pastel tones. It's been a while since I liked a colorization this much!
这些马卡龙色调有种说不出的迷人感。好久没见过这么让我心水的上色作品了!
timisher77 赞2020/7/21
Looks like a Norman Rockwell pic
看着很有诺曼·洛克威尔画作的那味儿。
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It is
dexmonic15 赞2020/7/21
Very comforting indeed.
确实挺治愈的。
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MonkeyOnYourMomsBack96 赞2020/7/20
I feel like you responded to the wrong person here and maybe aren't deserving of the downvotes :p
我感觉你是回错人了吧,而且说不定你其实不该被点踩的 :p
TangoZuluMike307 赞2020/7/20
Ah, the "good ole' days", where cops are nice to the white kids, and then they'll turn around and beat a black kids for drinking from the water fountain. And they called it the land of the free.
啊,那“美好的旧时光”,警察对白人小孩和颜悦色,转头就能因为黑人小孩在饮水机喝水就把人家揍一顿。 结果他们管这叫自由之地。
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TangoZuluMike64 赞2020/7/20
Jim Crow and Segregation were bad.
吉姆·克劳法案和种族隔离制度确实很烂。
ILoveTheDarknessBand28 赞2020/7/21
No shit - everyone agrees there. This is also a picture of a boy and a cop getting ice cream. There is nothing in this picture that indicates black people are being fire hosed outside.
这还用你说——大家对此都没意见。但这张照片拍的就是个小孩和警察在吃冰淇淋而已。照片里又没拍到外面正在用高压水枪喷黑人。
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Oakheel142 赞2020/7/20
Yeah also not pictured: the 'whites only' sign in the window
是啊,照片里没拍到的还有窗户上挂着的“仅限白人”牌子呢。
mrjackspade457 赞2020/7/21
Ill bite, just for the fuck of it. Norman Rockwell lived in MA when he painted this > The models for the painting were Rockwell’s Stockbridge, Massacheusetts neighbors, then 8 year old Eddie Locke, and 30 year old state trooper Richard Clemens. In April of 1958, they posed for an hour for the artist, at the Howard Johnson’s Restaurant in Pittsfield, Massacheusetts, on Lennox Road. Found this law on the books in 1932 in MA ref *Tercentenary Edition of the General Laws of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts : comprising the General Laws enacted December 22, 1920, to take effect January 1, 1921, as amended prior to January 1, 1932, with the constitutions of the United States and of the Commonwealth* > SECTION 98. Whoever makes any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of color or race, except for good cause applicable alike to all persons of every color and race, relative to the admission of any person to, or his treatment in, a theatre, skating rink or other public place of amusement, licensed or unlicensed, or in a public conveyance or public meeting, or in an inn, barber shop or other public place kept for hire, gain or reward, licensed or unlicensed, or whoever aids or incites such distinction, discrimination or restriction, shall be punished by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, and shall forfeit to any person aggrieved thereby not less than twenty-five nor more than three hundred dollars; but such person so aggrieved shall not recover against more than one person by reason of any one act of distinction, discrimination or restriction. Looks like MA has had laws against racial segregation in public accommodations since the 1860's, being the first actual state to pass civil rights laws ref *(Race-Neutral Individualism and Resurgence of the Color Line: Massachusetts Civil Rights Legislation, 1855-1895)* So from what I can gather, there would not have been a "whites only" sign in the window here. Nor one within great distance, or a long time. It looks like the second state with Civil Rights laws on the books was NY, birthplace of Norman Rockwell. Gonna go out on a limb and say that the America that Norman Rockwell experienced on a day to day basis was a lot more progressive for the time, than the rest of the country. At the very least its probably safe to say that this idyllic vision of Americana was more accurate than embellished. It may not represent the state of inter-racial relations at the time it was painted though that's likely in large part due to the fact that it was crafted in a bubble and not as a misrepresentation of its subject matter. Theres nothing "missing" from it, IMO.
算我一个,纯粹就是为了好玩。 诺曼·洛克威尔(Norman Rockwell)画这幅画的时候就住在马萨诸塞州。 > 这幅画的模特是洛克威尔在马萨诸塞州斯托克布里奇的邻居,分别是当时8岁的埃迪·洛克(Eddie Locke)和30岁的州警理查德·克莱门斯(Richard Clemens)。1958年4月,他们在马萨诸塞州皮茨菲尔德伦诺克斯路上的一家霍华德·约翰逊餐厅(Howard Johnson’s Restaurant)里为这位艺术家当了一个小时的模特。 我找到了马萨诸塞州1932年的法律条文。 参考:《马萨诸塞州联邦普通法三百周年纪念版:包括1920年12月22日颁布并于1921年1月1日生效、且在1932年1月1日之前修订的普通法,以及美国和马萨诸塞州联邦宪法》 > 第98节:凡因肤色或种族原因,对任何人进入剧院、溜冰场或其他公共娱乐场所(无论是否获得许可),或在公共交通工具、公开集会,或在旅馆、理发店或其他以租赁、营利或报酬为目的的公共场所(无论是否获得许可)进行区别对待、歧视或限制,除非有适用于所有肤色和种族人士的正当理由,或者任何协助或煽动此类区别对待、歧视或限制者,均应处以不超过三百美元的罚款,或处以不超过一年的监禁,或两者并罚;并应向因此受屈的任何人赔偿不少于二十五美元且不超过三百美元的金额;但受屈方不得因同一项区别对待、歧视或限制行为向超过一人提起索赔。 看起来马萨诸塞州自1860年代起就有反对公共设施种族隔离的法律了,它是第一个真正通过民权法的州。 参考:《种族中立的个人主义与肤色界限的复兴:马萨诸塞州民权立法,1855-1895》 所以照我理解,当时窗户上根本不可能有“仅限白人”的告示牌。甚至在很长一段距离或很长一段时间内都不会有。 看起来纽约州是第二个出台民权法的州,而那里正是诺曼·洛克威尔的出生地。我敢大胆地说,诺曼·洛克威尔日常生活中所体验到的美国,在当时要比这个国家的其他地方进步得多。 至少可以肯定地说,这种田园诗般的美国愿景与其说是夸大,不如说是写实。它可能确实没有反映出当时全美范围内的种族关系现状,但那很大程度上是因为这幅画是在一个特定的环境下创作出来的,而不是为了歪曲其主题。 在我看来,这幅画里什么也不“缺”。
Agent_Sebastian130 赞2020/7/21
Damn, you killed him with that reply.
靠,你这回复简直是绝杀。
TangoZuluMike18 赞2020/7/21
Hell yeah I'll updoot that. I don't do art history, so forgive me for not knowing the specific details, background and history of a painting. My point still stands though considering most of america in the 1950s.
说得太对了,必须给你点个赞(updoot)。 我不搞艺术史,所以如果我不了解这幅画的具体细节、背景和历史,还请见谅。 但考虑到20世纪50年代美国的大部分情况,我的观点依然成立。
steroid_pc_principal56 赞2020/7/21
I think it’s good to remember that the US was a diverse place, and still is. The worst of America was never all of America. The same can be said about the best of America.
我觉得大家有必要记住,美国一直以来都是个多元化的地方,现在也依然如此。美国最糟糕的那一面,从来不代表美国的全部。同理,美国最美好的一面也无法概括整个美国。
bassegio136 赞2020/7/21
We were on vacation in Lee MA in 1996. We stopped into this little diner on the main street.We had a wonderful, inexpensive lunch. I kept looking around and it all looked so familiar. I glanced up at a picture hanging on the wall and there was "The Runaway" It's Joe's Diner. The owner was still alive and I got to talk with him about the painting. Which was pretty neat. A few years later I was doing a job in my Maryland town and I noticed my clients had an autographed photo of this. I asked the homeowner how he got an autographed photo. He told me that the MA trooper in the photo was his partner!! [https://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/60-years-at-joes-diner-in-lee,296855](https://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/60-years-at-joes-diner-in-lee,296855)
1996年我们在马萨诸塞州李镇(Lee, MA)度假。我们顺道去了主街上的一家小餐馆。那顿午餐吃得非常棒,而且还不贵。我当时就一直环顾四周,觉得一切看起来都特别眼熟。抬头一瞥挂在墙上的画,发现竟然就是《离家出走》(The Runaway)。那是乔氏餐馆(Joe's Diner)。店主当时还在世,我有幸和他聊了聊那幅画。那感觉真的太赞了。几年后,我在马里兰州老家工作时,注意到我的客户家里有张这幅画的亲笔签名照。我问屋主是怎么搞到这张签名照的。结果他告诉我,照片里那个马萨诸塞州的州警就是他的搭档!![https://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/60-years-at-joes-diner-in-lee,296855](https://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/60-years-at-joes-diner-in-lee,296855)
Chuggzmcvee23 赞2020/7/21
My fiance and I were there last fall, and we stopped in at that diner for a quick, inexpensive breakfast. It wasn't till we were at the Norman Rockwell museum and I saw the photo that I put it together.
我和未婚夫去年秋天去过那儿,当时我们顺便在那家餐馆吃了顿简单又实惠的早餐。直到后来我们去了诺曼·洛克威尔博物馆(Norman Rockwell museum)看到那张照片,才把这两件事联系起来。
TheEldritchVoid125 赞2020/7/21
that police officer got some **cake** 😳😳😳
那位警察的**屁股**也太绝了吧 😳😳😳
Larry1022540 赞2020/7/21
Dummy thicc
简直是个行走的“人间水蜜桃”。
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LanceFree77 赞2020/7/21
I watched a Norman Rockwell documentary and was happy to find he was conflicted- wanting to try different styles, but this stuff paid the rent.
我看了部诺曼·洛克威尔的纪录片,很高兴发现他其实挺纠结的——他想尝试不同的画风,但画这些(插画)纯粹是为了混口饭吃。
harmonica-blues33 赞2020/7/21
The bane of all artists in every form.
所有领域艺术家的噩梦。
masticatetherapist15 赞2020/7/21
truly only furry artists who hate furries know this burden
说实话,只有那些讨厌兽迷的兽迷画师才懂这种煎熬。
jayembeisme56 赞2020/7/21
True story- I worked one summer with the man who posed, as a boy, for that painting with Mr Rockwell. As Ed retold it during our lunch break, his mother was offered something like $5 OR the painting (which she could have after the edition of the Saturday Evening Post had been published). Mom took the $5... oops.
真事儿——我有个暑假和一位男士共事,他小时候曾给诺曼·洛克威尔的那幅画当过模特。据埃德在午休时回忆,他母亲当时面临个选择:要么拿5美元,要么拿那幅画(等《周六晚报》那期出版后归她)。老妈最后选了那5美元……哎哟喂。
ReverendDizzle30 赞2020/7/21
Oof. Even his barely-known painting fetch six figures and his iconic paintings fetch tens of millions. *The Runaway* is probably one of the best known Rockwell paintings and would have easily fetched 20+ million, no question.
哎哟。即便他那些名气不大的画作都能拍出六位数,而他的那些标志性画作更是能卖到几千万。《离家出走》(The Runaway)大概是最出名的罗克韦尔画作之一了,卖个两千万以上简直毫无疑问。
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Great job! The bindle on the floor is adorable.
干得漂亮!地上的那个包袱(bindle)太可爱了。
thesandsofrhyme17 赞2020/7/21
I don't know what I thought that was called, but it wasn't "bindle". Thanks for teaching me a new word!
我之前都不知道那玩意儿叫什么,反正绝对不是“bindle”。谢了,又学了个新词!
Kylestache31 赞2020/7/20
This comment thread is a dumpster fire, holy shit.
这评论区简直是个垃圾堆,卧槽。
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Well, it’s reddit. You can’t mention anything historical without sweaty idiots typing madly about “muh racism”, regardless of the context.
害,这可是Reddit。无论什么语境,只要你提到点历史相关的东西,总会有几个满头大汗的蠢货在那疯狂打字扯什么“我滴个种族主义”。
HHyperion29 赞2020/7/20
Someone get this man pants that fit before he blows his crotch seam.
谁赶紧给这哥们儿搞条合身的裤子吧,免得他把裤裆给崩开了。
ColonelAverage18 赞2020/7/21
- LBJ, probably
——大概是勒布朗·詹姆斯说的吧
Mahaloth26 赞2020/7/20
[I like this update to it.](image
[我挺喜欢这个更新版的。](image
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bsmac4552 赞2020/7/20
No matter how serious some structural issues are in policing, this is an image of a police officer handling an issue in a gentle, appropriate, and compassionate way. This is what we should strive for. This is what police officers should aspire to, not the hypertactical Punisher attitude some tend to. Why tear this down? How can law enforcement change if there is no positive vision of the future?
无论警务体系中存在的问题有多严重,这张照片呈现的都是一名警官在以温和、得体且富有同情心的方式处理问题。这才是我们应该努力追求的方向。这才是警官们该有的志向,而不是某些人倾向的那种超战术的“惩罚者”做派。为什么要诋毁这种正面形象?如果连对未来的愿景都没有,执法部门又该如何改变呢?
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bsmac4516 赞2020/7/21
>other communities lived radically different realities at the time this image was made, and continue to live radically different realities today. Absolutely true. >in 1958 a black person couldn't even sit at that counter, much less have a nice time with Officer Friendly. Massachusetts in 1958 was fully desegregated and black people could sit at any lunch counter. I'd like to believe that even in 1958 police officers wouldn't be brutal to ~7-8 year old black children, but it is a sad fact that the black children would be much more likely to face harsh treatment. As a crim defense attorney, I am sure you have a deep understanding of the shades of grey and manifest unfairness in many dimensions that make up our CJ system. The point I was trying to make was, though, shouldn't we be striving for a world where all citizens are treated like a white boy in small town '50s America? While the fury many have at these issues is completely justified and long overdue, it's hard to imagine a way to move forward productively if ACAB rhetoric and knee-jerk hatred and presumption of corruption of cops takes over our discourse.
>在拍摄这张照片的时候,其他族群正生活在截然不同的现实中,而且直到今天,他们依然生活在截然不同的现实中。 这话说得完全没错。 >1958年的时候,黑人连在那柜台前坐下的资格都没有,更别提跟那“友善的警察叔叔”谈笑风生了。 1958年的马萨诸塞州种族隔离已经完全取消了,黑人可以在任何快餐柜台就坐。我愿意相信,即使是在1958年,警察也不至于对七八岁的黑人小孩下狠手,但一个可悲的事实是,黑人小孩确实更容易遭到严酷对待。 作为一名刑事辩护律师,我相信你对司法系统中那灰色的地带,以及各方面显而易见的不公有着深刻的理解。但我刚才想表达的观点是:难道我们不该致力于追求一个所有公民都能像50年代美国小镇白人男孩那样被对待的世界吗?虽然很多人对这些问题感到愤怒是完全正当的,且这种愤怒早该爆发了,但如果我们的讨论全被“警察皆混蛋”(ACAB)的论调、条件反射式的仇恨以及对警察预设的腐败论所占据,那真的很难想象我们该如何建设性地向前迈进。
WhyNaut_Zoidberg17 赞2020/7/20
haha funny and topical.
哈哈,真有意思,还挺应景的。
SereneDogeofHolland14 赞2020/7/20
lol so many triggered and bitter people in this thread. Stay mad.
哈哈,这帖子里被戳中痛点破防的人可真多啊。继续气着吧。
ericbyo13 赞2020/7/21
God what a cesspit of comments.
天哪,评论区简直是个粪坑。
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HE THICC
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[Mad Magazine's take on this picture](image)
[《疯狂杂志》(Mad Magazine) 对这张图的看法](image)
adolin6911 赞2020/7/21
Really awesome of reddit commentors bitching and politicizing everything.
Reddit 的评论者们真棒,啥事儿都能被他们拿来抱怨和政治化。
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Great info. Thank you for the links. I will be on the lookout for some prints now.
信息量很大。谢谢你提供的这些链接。我这就去留意一下有没有印刷品买。
twinety8 赞2020/7/21
Oh man that bag on the stick really made me feel that image... This is the one thing i always attributed to travel anventure and lonerism it gives me a certain feel of melancholy and nostalgia about the fairytales and stories i was told as a child knowing that this symbol is relic of the past
天呐,那根棍子上挂着的包袱真的让我对那张照片感同身受……这正是我一直以来与旅行冒险和孤独感联系在一起的东西,它带给我一种关于儿时听过的童话和故事的忧郁与怀旧之情,毕竟这种标志已是往昔的遗存。
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Anyone notice the person shown in the bar stool reflection. Is this the person watching this as we see it from their eyes?
有人注意到吧台凳倒影里那个人了吗?这人是不是就是正以第一视角看着这一切的那个家伙?
Supersamtheredditman7 赞2020/7/21
I had a very short career as a child actor and my only part was replicating this scene (as the runaway) for a Japanese tv show
我当童星的职业生涯非常短,当时我唯一的戏份就是在一部日本电视节目里复刻这一幕(演那个离家出走的孩子)。
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originofsymmetries18 赞2020/7/20
There's a dissonance, now...
现在看的话,有种说不出的违和感……
MyOtherLoginIsSecret6 赞2020/7/21
Man, the memories. Growing up my parents had a print of the painting hanging in the bathroom, right across from the toilet.
天哪,满满的回忆。我小时候,我爸妈在卫生间里挂了一张这幅画的印刷品,位置就在马桶的正对面。
rempred5 赞2020/7/21
No ones gonna mention how Rockwell did that clerk dirty?
居然没人提罗克韦尔把那店员坑得够惨吗?
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