犹太囚犯从死亡列车被解救后，1945年
1945年，犹太囚犯从一列“死亡列车”中获救后。[880 x 1056]
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FluffyViber1,546 赞2020/6/17
I can't even begin to imagine what the mother in the picture is feeling, to think that at any moment you might be separated from your child and never see them again. The relief must've been beyond words.
我简直无法想象照片里的那位母亲当时是什么心情，想到随时可能骨肉分离，从此天各一方，再也见不到自己的孩子。那种劫后余生的如释重负，绝对是言语无法形容的。
RSTowers477 赞2020/6/17
Unfortunately, it looks like she was already separated from the male side of her family. Hopefully they were also on that train and were reunited soon after.
可惜的是，看起来她家里那边的男性成员已经跟她走散了。希望他们当时也在那趟火车上，并且很快就团聚了。
KillerInstinctUltra261 赞2020/6/17
I ran it through a [colorizer](
).
).我用[上色工具]()给它处理了一下。
)给它处理了一下。jfk_4795 赞2020/6/17
I’m sorry ... WHAT?!?!? Is this an app or website, wtf??? I want more info!
对不住啊……啥玩意儿?!?!?!
这到底是款APP还是网站啊，搞什么鬼？？？我需要更多信息！
KillerInstinctUltra140 赞2020/6/17
Yeah there are actually several. AI driven colorizers have been a thing for awhile. Check out these. https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/colorizer https://demos.algorithmia.com/colorize-photos https://colourise.sg/
没错，其实市面上有很多个。
AI驱动的着色器都已经出来一阵子了。
去看看这些吧。
https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/colorizer
https://demos.algorithmia.com/colorize-photos
https://colourise.sg/
jfk_4740 赞2020/6/17
Thanks boo.
谢啦，亲爱的。
PolygonMan52 赞2020/6/17
You take a color photo, you turn it black and white. You give the neural network the black and white version and ask it to turn it into the color version. After millions of attempts it eventually learns how to do it.
你先拍张彩色照片，再把它转成黑白。你把这张黑白照片丢给神经网络，让它给变回彩色。在经历了几百万次的试错后，它最终就学会怎么搞了。
732 赞2020/6/17
Why do people dont believe in the holocaust. I mean it clearly happened
为啥还有人不相信大屠杀啊？我的意思是，这明明就是真真切切发生过的事。
413 赞2020/6/17
Because peoples propensity to act like a smartass and wilfully be contrarian to completely established beliefs won’t end. Combine this with the dawn of the internet, where bullshit ideas can be ‘legitimised’ by websites and communities, you have [insert factual historical event] deniers.
因为总有些人喜欢自作聪明，非要跟公认的定论对着干，这种臭毛病是改不了的。再加上互联网时代的到来，各种扯淡的观点都能在那些网站和社区里被“洗白”得像模像样，于是你就看到了这帮否定[此处插入某历史事实]的杠精。
277 赞2020/6/17
You ever notice how everyone who doesnt believe the holocaust happened also coincidentally hates Jews? Remarkable coincidence. Battin a thousand.
你有没有发现，那些否认犹太人大屠杀发生过的人，居然巧合地全都反犹？真是个“惊人”的巧合啊。简直百发百中。
52 赞2020/6/17
You might be on to something here...
你这发现还真有点东西……
42 赞2020/6/17
kiss piquant terrific follow innocent retire instinctive whole strong upbeat *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev/home)*
吻 辛辣的 极好的 跟随 无辜的 退休 本能的 整个 强壮的 乐观的 *此贴已通过 [Redact](https://redact.dev/home) 进行批量处理并匿名化*
116 赞2020/6/17
They resent the martyring, is the thing. Makes people *sympathize* with Jewish folk, and they can't have that.
问题在于，他们反感这种“烈士化”。因为这会让人们对犹太人产生*同情*，而这是他们绝不能容忍的。
35 赞2020/6/17
Exactly, as soon as they get rid of the sympathy they can start work on the next one...
没错，一旦除掉了这些同情心，他们就能着手搞下一波了……
47 赞2020/6/17
The Holocaust is what eventually led to Israel being created, as reparations. If you hate Israel, it's very convenient to deny the Holocaust. EDIT: ~~Weird downvotes ... ?~~ This is exactly why Iran denies the Holocaust, my dudes. I personally do not deny it; just saying what's going through their heads.
大屠杀最终导致了以色列的建立，作为一种赔偿。如果你仇恨以色列，那否定大屠杀就显得非常“顺手”了。编辑：~~这踩也太莫名其妙了吧……？~~ 伙计们，这正是伊朗否定大屠杀的原因所在。我个人并不否认这段历史；我只是在陈述他们脑子里在想什么。
42 赞2020/6/17
It predates the internet though.
不过这玩意儿可是比互联网出现得早多了。
54 赞2020/6/17
Stupidity, however, predates the internet by thousands of years.
但说到底，愚蠢这东西比互联网早出现了几千年。
21 赞2020/6/17
Yeah but it probably wasn't as widespread before the internet because almost no one took that shit seriously and you had to buy a book if you wanted to "learn" about it.
是啊，但互联网普及前这玩意儿应该没这么大范围传播，因为那时候几乎没人把那种破事当回事，而且你想“深入了解”的话，还得自己掏钱去买书才行。
42 赞2020/6/17
They are also racist. The deniers are all racists.
他们也是种族主义者。那些否认者全都是种族主义者。
30 赞2020/6/17
It’s always rooted in antisemitism. That’s why it’s a widely accepted thing in certain Middle Eastern countries, where antisemitism is also insanely common. You’d think these Jew hating bastards would acknowledge the Holocaust happened and throw their support behind the idea of continuing what Hitler started. But they deny the Holocaust ever happened, and yet they somehow also think that “if it did happen, the Jews deserved it”.
这事儿永远根植于反犹主义。这就是为什么在某些中东国家，这种观念会被广泛接受，毕竟那里反犹主义也极其普遍。你可能会觉得，这些憎恨犹太人的混蛋至少该承认大屠杀确实发生过，并支持继续希特勒未竟的事业。但他们却在那儿否认大屠杀从未发生过，可与此同时，他们居然又觉得“就算那事儿真发生了，那也是犹太人活该”。
134 赞2020/6/17
Eisenhower was smart enough to order that Allied troops liberating the concentration camps meticulously preserve as much evidence as they could, because he knew there would be people decades down the line claiming the Holocaust never happened. Unfortunately he failed to account for how people can wilfully ignore evidence even when it is presented to them.
艾森豪威尔很有远见，他下令盟军部队在解放集中营时要尽可能细致地保留证据，因为他知道几十年后肯定会有人跳出来说大屠杀从没发生过。
可惜他没料到，即便把证据摆在人们面前，他们也能选择性失明，完全视而不见。
91 赞2020/6/17
He was also wise enough to warn Americans against the rise of the military industrial complex, but that was ignored too.
他还挺有远见的，警告过美国人要警惕军工复合体的崛起，但这点也被当成耳旁风了。
33 赞2020/6/17
It truly is scary how little people even today are wary of it
说实话挺吓人的，直到今天都没多少人对这玩意儿抱有戒心。
31 赞2020/6/17
I live in Utah where the F-35's are being built and test flown every day over my head, and I gotta tell you, they are absolute coolest waste of money ever.
我住在犹他州，F-35 战斗机就在这儿造，每天都在我头顶上试飞。我必须得说，这绝对是史上最酷的烧钱货了。
20 赞2020/6/17
People don't believe in the moon landing - and we have \*video\* of it.
有些人就是不信登月——可我们明明有登月的*视频*啊。
102 赞2020/6/17
Wait that is a thing?
等等，还有这事儿？
162 赞2020/6/17
It is. In Germany it’s even illegal to deny it. For obvious reasons.
可不嘛。在德国，否认登月甚至都是违法的。原因显而易见。
55 赞2020/6/17
That’s why I only shop for clothes at Summit Ice. DENY NOTHING!
这就是为什么我买衣服只认 Summit Ice。DENY NOTHING（绝不否认）！
19 赞2020/6/17
The only brand that takes a STRONG stance against Holocaust denial!
这是唯一一家对大屠杀否认论持坚定立场的品牌！
98 赞2020/6/17
Welcome to the wonderful world of ignorance, hate, and [holocaust denial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial).
欢迎来到无知、仇恨和[大屠杀否认](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial)的奇妙世界。
62 赞2020/6/17
“Holocaust denial is supported by some Middle Eastern governments, including Iran and Syria.” ..wow
“伊朗和叙利亚等一些中东政府支持否认大屠杀。”
……哇塞。
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30 赞2020/6/17
They really hate Jewish people over in Iran and Syria, it's really the same holy war that has been going on for centuries.
伊朗和叙利亚那边的人是真的恨犹太人，这简直就是延续了几个世纪的同一场圣战。
22 赞2020/6/17
Dude. There are US politicians who “have some questions”
老兄。美国政客里都有不少人对此“心存疑虑”呢。
18 赞2020/6/17
Hell on reddit a lot of people deny the Wehrmacht's involvement in the genocide.
在Reddit上，真特么有很多人否认德国国防军参与了种族灭绝。
17 赞2020/6/17
That myth is so widespread on Reddit, in my experience. The amount of times I've seen a person unironically saying things like "The SS were evil, but the average German soldier was just fighting for his country" is absolutely shocking. It's the same with all the Rommel apologia, the amount of times I have seen people on Reddit pushing the "Good German" lie about Rommel is honestly depressing.
根据我的经验，这种迷思在Reddit上广为流传。我无数次看到有人一本正经地说什么“党卫军是恶魔，但普通德国士兵只是在为国而战”，这简直让人震惊。
对隆美尔的辩护也是一样，我在Reddit上看到过太多人鼓吹关于隆美尔的“好德国人”谎言了，说实话真的让人丧气。
42 赞2020/6/17
My grandfather helped liberate Bergen Belsen and i never saw him cry until he was dying and all of a sudden unloaded what he saw. He sobbed. It happened.
我爷爷当年参与了解放伯根-贝尔森集中营，我从没见过他哭，直到他临终前突然把当年的所见所闻都吐露了出来。他当时泣不成声。这一切都是真实发生过的。
31 赞2020/6/17
Because they are fascists, and the holocaust made that ideology toxic to most people. So they want to deny or diminish the holocaust in order to make fascism more palatable to ordinary people.
因为他们就是法西斯，而大屠杀让这种意识形态在大多数人眼里成了剧毒。所以他们想要否认或淡化大屠杀，好让法西斯主义在普通人眼里没那么难以下咽。
408 赞2020/6/17
There’s a really wonderful [background story](https://flashbak.com/the-true-story-of-the-holocaust-train-rescued-from-the-heart-of-darkness-friday-april-13th-1945-416548/ ) behind this picture.
这张照片背后有一个非常精彩的[背景故事](https://flashbak.com/the-true-story-of-the-holocaust-train-rescued-from-the-heart-of-darkness-friday-april-13th-1945-416548/)。
203 赞2020/6/17
The quote right at the top of the article is very powerful: "I cannot believe, today, that the world almost ignored those people and what was happening. How could we have all stood by and have let that happen? They do not owe us anything. We owe them, for what we allowed to happen to them." – Carrol Walsh, Liberator Reminds me of a quote often believed to be from MLK: "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter."
文章最开头的那句引言非常有冲击力：
“直到今天，我仍然无法相信，当时全世界竟然差点对这些人以及正在发生的一切视而不见。我们怎么能袖手旁观，任由这种事情发生？他们并不欠我们什么。是我们欠他们的，因为我们默许了发生在他们身上的惨剧。”——卡罗尔·沃尔什（Carrol Walsh），解放者
这让我想起了那句常被认为是马丁·路德·金所说的名言：
“当我们对自己所关心的事物选择沉默的那一天，我们的生命就开始终结了。”
85 赞2020/6/17
Well thank you I am now both very inspired and very crying and it’s not even 9 am.
哇，谢谢你，我现在既感到备受鼓舞又泪流满面，而且现在才不到早上9点呢。
21 赞2020/6/17
That was an amazing read, thank you!
这文章写得太棒了，多谢！
318 赞2020/6/17
The sheer joy from the lady with her arms outstretched gets me every time with this photo. I always hope they went on to live good lives.
每次看到这张照片，那位张开双臂的女士身上流露出的纯粹喜悦总能打动我。我一直祈祷她们后来都过上了好日子。
124 赞2020/6/17
I got a chance a few years ago to talk to a Jewish American WWII veteran whose unit liberated a concentration camp when he was a teenager... I encourage all young people to talk to and interview people who fought in WWII and were even alive during this time while you can. They won’t be around for much longer. Once they die, their stories and their experiences will die with them.
几年前我有机会和一位二战时期的美国犹太老兵聊了聊，他当年还是个十几岁的少年，所在的部队刚好解放了一个集中营……我真心鼓励所有年轻人，趁现在还能赶得上，多去和那些参加过二战、甚至亲历过那个年代的人聊聊、采访采访他们。他们真的没多少时间了。一旦他们离世，他们亲历的故事和体验也将随之湮灭。
84 赞2020/6/17
Fortunately the Shoah Foundation is doing an amazing job recording on film many stories of holocaust survivors.
幸运的是，大屠杀基金会（Shoah Foundation）现在做得非常棒，他们通过影像记录下了许多大屠杀幸存者的故事。
123 赞2020/6/17
Freed by the US Army in 1945, a lot of these people died right there next to the train when they got out because they were so starving they couldn’t move
1945年被美军解救时，这群人里有好多在刚下火车时就直接死在了铁轨边，因为他们当时已经饿得连动都动不了了。
121 赞2020/6/17
16 died out of 2500, there are many articles about this event.
2500个人里死了16个，网上关于这件事的文章多得很。
15 赞2020/6/17
That's still a big amount of deaths considering how specific the cause is.
考虑到致死原因这么明确，死的人数还是挺多的。
61 赞2020/6/17
So my grandmother was in a similar situation. When she was 7 years old, the war was just over (it was like 1946). She was in a rather rich austrian family living in a croation village, which had of course been under germen rule in the war. After the war however they were ordered to leave by croatian partisans. And so they did: they grabbed everything they had and just moved out. After 4 months they were told they could come back and so they did. But, after another month or so the partisans decided it was best to get rid of them in a croation concentration camp like facility. After a few weeks imprisoned they should have been moved to another concentration camp, when the train driver made an announcement: something like:" the train will stop here for 15 minutes to refill. The Austrian border is 200m from here." Her (or my?) family and the other passengers understood that of course and ran to Austria where they began a new live. Later my grandmothers uncle and another family member went back to croatia hoping it was safe, but they went missing a few weeks after and probably died soon after.
我奶奶当时也遇到过类似的情况。那会儿她才7岁，二战刚结束（大概是1946年吧）。她们一家是住在克罗地亚村庄里的奥地利富户，战时当然是在德国的统治下。可战后克罗地亚游击队就下令让他们滚蛋。于是他们照办了：收拾好所有家当就搬走了。四个月后，有人通知他们可以回去，他们也就回去了。但才过了一个月左右，游击队觉得还是把他们关进那种类似集中营的地方处理掉最好。被关了几个星期后，就在他们要被转移到另一个集中营时，火车司机广播说：“火车在这儿停15分钟加水。奥地利边境离这儿就200米。”我奶奶（还是我？）的家人和同车的乘客当然秒懂了，拔腿就往奥地利跑，在那里开始了新生活。后来，我奶奶的叔叔和另一个家人以为安全了，又回了一趟克罗地亚，结果没过几周就失踪了，估计很快就遇难了。
60 赞2020/6/17
Wow that one on the back left looks like a walking skeleton.
哇，左后方那个看起来像个行走的骷髅。
41 赞2020/6/17
And very happy to be alive.
而且看起来能活着简直太开心了。
15 赞2020/6/17
Her smile is heartbreaking.
她的笑容看得人揪心。
37 赞2020/6/17
Seriously, everyone else is (understandably) crying, and this lady is just all "Look at this shit! You beautiful son of a bitch! Get over here!" And honestly, that's the kind of energy I want to have.
说真的，其他人都在哭（这很正常），但这位大姐却在那喊：“快看这鬼东西！你这可爱的混蛋！赶紧过来！”讲道理，这正是我想要的那种人生态度。
56 赞2020/6/17
I’m reading Mans Search for Meaning at the moment. It describes the concentration camp life in gruesome detail and the psychology of the prisoners. Highly recommended reading for anyone interested in learning more about Jewish prisoner life.
我最近正在读《活出意义来》（Man's Search for Meaning）。书里极其详细地描述了集中营里的生活以及囚犯们的心理状态。强烈推荐给任何想深入了解犹太囚犯生活的人阅读。
27 赞2020/6/17
"Good trains follow tracks" - Thomas' last words before getting executed for aiding Nazi in murdering millions of jews
“好火车都沿着轨道走”——这是托马斯在因协助纳粹屠杀数百万犹太人而被处决前留下的遗言。
19 赞2020/6/17
Can’t even imagine the swirl of emotions going through these women’s heads. Elation from being freed from certain death, uncertainty about what kind of world awaits them, hell they were found by a group of American soldiers so who knows if they were nervous about a group of armed men who speak a language they don’t understand standing before them in the middle of the woods
根本无法想象这些女性脑子里正经历着怎样的情绪风暴。既有死里逃生的狂喜，又有对未来世界的迷茫；毕竟她们是被一队美国大兵发现的，谁知道她们当时心里慌不慌——面对着一群在深山老林里突然冒出来、手里端着枪且语言不通的男人。
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37 赞2020/6/17
The people in there were probably thankful to die quick from a stray round... At Auschwitz, American bombers did recon, but made no attacks. Reportedly, the Jews at Auschwitz were screaming at the sky “Drop the bombs! Drop the bombs!” They didn’t care if they died. They wanted the place destroyed, their suffering ended swiftly, and with the assurance that no others would die at that hellish place. But we didn’t drop the bombs. It was considered, but deemed a waste of resources. We even considered precise strikes, hitting the furnaces and guard barracks, and administrative buildings. Instead we did nothing. EDIT: Thread locked but the source for the screaming is from the testimony of Lali Sokolov, the tattooist of Auschwitz, and here is a link https://www.livescience.com/bombing-auschwitz-wwii-pbs.html about the decision not to bomb Auschwitz despite full knowledge of what was going on.
那里面的人估计都巴不得被流弹打中，好死得痛快点……
在奥斯威辛，美军轰炸机搞过侦察，但压根儿没动手。据记载，奥斯威辛的犹太人们当时对着天空尖叫：“投弹啊！快投弹啊！”他们根本不在乎自己会不会死。他们只想让这地方被夷为平地，让自己的苦难快点结束，并且确保再也不会有人在那个人间炼狱受罪。
但我们终究没扔那几颗炸弹。当时确实考虑过，但觉得那是浪费资源。我们也曾考虑过精确打击，去炸毁那些焚尸炉、守卫营房还有办公楼。结果呢，我们什么都没做。
编辑：帖子被锁了，但关于那些尖叫声的来源，是出自奥斯威辛纹身师拉利·索科洛夫（Lali Sokolov）的证词。这是关于当时明明对奥斯威辛里发生的一切了如指掌，却最终决定不轰炸的链接：https://www.livescience.com/bombing-auschwitz-wwii-pbs.html
15 赞2020/6/17
This is one of those pictures that truly speaks a thousand words.
这照片真是有图胜千言，一切尽在不言中。
13 赞2020/6/17
I wonder how history will see the atrocities going on in China today.
我真好奇，历史会如何评价当今在中国发生的这些暴行。
11 赞2020/6/17
The woman with her arms outstretched, and just a massive fuck off smile had a profoundly strong impression on me. So many different things are being communicated in that smile 😊
那个双臂张开、脸上挂着一副“去你妈的”挑衅笑容的女人，给我留下了极度深刻的印象。那个笑容里传递出了太多复杂的情绪 😊
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Everytime I see this picture the mother's look of scared relief haunts me.
每次看到这张照片，这位母亲脸上那种带着恐惧的如释重负的神情，都让我久久无法释怀。
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God bless these people. I hope their loved ones also survived.
老天保佑这些人。希望他们的挚爱也都平安无事。
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Amazing photo
太棒的照片了。
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I can t imagine the elation of the mothers knowing their children were going to survive.
我简直无法想象，那些母亲们在得知自己的孩子能活下来时，心里会有多狂喜。
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Terrifying
太可怕了。
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Relief, sadness and fear
解脱，悲伤，还有恐惧。
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The one on the far left in the background. I can't.
背景里最左边那个。我真的不行了。
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