Well he did start a social/religious movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolstoyan_movement >Tolstoyans (Russian:Толстовцы, Tolstovtsy) identify themselves as Christians, but do not generally belong to an institutional Church. Tolstoy was a harsh critic of the Russian Orthodox Church, leading to his excommunication in 1901.[3] Tolstoyans tend to focus more on following the teachings of Jesus, rather than on his miracles or divinity. >They attempt to live an ascetic and simple life, preferring to be vegetarian, non-smoking, teetotal and chaste. Tolstoyans are considered Christian pacifists and advocate nonresistance in all circumstances. Tolstoy's understanding of what it means to be Christian was defined by the Sermon on the Mount and summed up in five simple propositions: >1. Love your enemies
2. Do not be angry
3. Do not fight evil with evil, but return evil with good (an interpretation of turning the other cheek)
4. Do not lust
5. Do not take oaths.
Tolstoy was a good man who helped my ancestors escape persecution from the Russian czar's https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doukhobors > The Quakers and Tolstoyan movement covered most of the costs of passage for the emigrants; writer Leo Tolstoy arranged for the royalties from his novel Resurrection, his story Father Sergei, and some others, to go to the emigration fund. He also raised money from wealthy friends. In the end, his efforts provided about 30,000 rubles, half of the emigration fund. The anarchist Peter Kropotkin and James Mavor, a professor of political economy at the University of Toronto, also helped the emigrants.[18][19]
**Tolstoyan movement** The Tolstoyan movement is a social movement based on the philosophical and religious views of Russian novelist Leo Tolstoy (1828–1910). Tolstoy's views were formed by rigorous study of the ministry of Jesus, particularly the Sermon on the Mount. Tolstoy expressed "great joy" that groups of people "have been springing up, not only in Russia but in various parts of Europe, who are in complete agreement with our views." However, the author also thought it was a mistake to create a specific movement or doctrine after him, urging individuals to listen to their own conscience rather than blindly follow his. In regard to a letter he received from an adherent, he wrote: To speak of "Tolstoyism," to seek guidance, to inquire about my solution of questions, is a great and gross error. *** ^[ [^PM](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=kittens_from_space) ^| [^Exclude ^me](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiTextBot&message=Excludeme&subject=Excludeme) ^| [^Exclude ^from ^subreddit](https://np.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/about/banned) ^| [^FAQ ^/ ^Information](https://np.reddit.com/r/WikiTextBot/wiki/index) ^| [^Source](https://github.com/kittenswolf/WikiTextBot) ^]
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That's eerily similar to what my family believes, but besides the chaste and vegetarian parts. Too bad most Christians that go on missions mostly have their personal churches in mind :/
I think he teaches blondes to become Kung-fu assassins by learning how to one-inch punch boards all day.
我觉得他教那些金发妞学功夫,让她们整天练寸拳打木板,好变身成功夫刺客。
EucalyptusHelve2,207 赞2018/5/28
My family owes its existence to this man. My great-great grandfather and his family were Doukhobors in Russia. They were greatly persecuted by the Russian government. Leo Tolstoy funded their Migration to Canada to escape that persecution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doukhobors
> By 1930 a total of about 8,780 Doukhobors migrated to Canada from Russia.[17] > The Quakers and Tolstoyan movement covered most of the costs of passage for the emigrants; writer Leo Tolstoy arranged for the royalties from his novel Resurrection, his story Father Sergei, and some others, to go to the emigration fund. He also raised money from wealthy friends. In the end, his efforts provided about 30,000 rubles, half of the emigration fund. The anarchist Peter Kropotkin and James Mavor, a professor of political economy at the University of Toronto, also helped the emigrants.[18][19]
"Count Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy (usually referred to in English as Leo Tolstoy) 9 September 1828 – 20 November 1910 Born to an aristocratic Russian family in 1828, he is best known for the novels War and Peace (1869) and Anna Karenina (1877), often cited as pinnacles of realist fiction. He first achieved literary acclaim in his twenties with his semi-autobiographical trilogy, Childhood, Boyhood, and Youth (1852–1856), and Sevastopol Sketches (1855), based upon his experiences in the Crimean War. Tolstoy's fiction includes dozens of short stories and several novellas such as The Death of Ivan Ilyich (1886), Family Happiness (1859), and Hadji Murad (1912). He also wrote plays and numerous philosophical essays. In the 1870s Tolstoy experienced a profound moral crisis, followed by what he regarded as an equally profound spiritual awakening, as outlined in his non-fiction work A Confession (1882). His literal interpretation of the ethical teachings of Jesus, centering on the Sermon on the Mount, caused him to become a fervent Christian anarchist and pacifist. Tolstoy's ideas on nonviolent resistance, expressed in such works as The Kingdom of God Is Within You (1894), were to have a profound impact on such pivotal 20th-century figures as Mohandas Gandhi, and Martin Luther King, Jr. Tolstoy also became a dedicated advocate of Georgism, the economic philosophy of Henry George, which he incorporated into his writing, particularly Resurrection (1899). " info via wikipedia
I've consistently heard this guy counted among the top writers of all time. Along with Fyodor Dostoyevsky, CS Lewis, Shakespeare... ...and I've never read anything by him. I probably should.
Oh goody I’m a sucker for political history so that’s why I ask. I also really love stream of consciousness sort of style too so I’ll read both inevitably.
You'll really enjoy W&P. While the main figures are fiction, most events are real. Especially the parts with Napoleon and General Koetozov are enjoyable. + in some random parts Tolstoy has some interesting essays scolding the historians of his day that do not understand what made civilization move.
If you’re like me and love political history then definitely war and peace. It’s a titan of a book, but it’s historically on point and Tolstoy just does a superb job at building up this image and myth of Napoleon from the eyes of the Russians, and then shows how the man and the myth are never the same. I’ll probably never read it again because it just took so much time and effort, but I never really felt bored during it. Anna Karenina on the other hand I struggled with because it was still Tolstoy’s style but no where near as much political history.
For W&P I had to make a spreadsheet pretty much to keep track of who everyone was.
读《战争与和平》的时候,我几乎得专门搞个电子表格出来,才能把里面的人物关系理清楚。
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Hadji Murad is one of my favorite books ever. Tolstoy manages to squeeze like 6 words out of every word. Don't ask how or what I'm talking about. He paints a picture so concisely in that book.
"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. Everything was in confusion in the Oblonskys' house. The wife had discovered that the husband was carrying on an intrigue with a French girl, who had been a governess in their family, and she had announced to her husband that she could not go on living in the same house with him. This position of affairs had now lasted three days, and not only the husband and wife themselves, but all the members of their family and household, were painfully conscious of it. Every person in the house felt that there was so sense in their living together, and that the stray people brought together by chance in any inn had more in common with one another than they, the members of the family and household of the Oblonskys. The wife did not leave her own room, the husband had not been at home for three days. The children ran wild all over the house; the English governess quarreled with the housekeeper, and wrote to a friend asking her to look out for a new situation for her; the man-cook had walked off the day before just at dinner time; the kitchen-maid, and the coachman had given warning." Haha, see, not that bad! Go for it! Even kf he's considered to be a mastodon of literature, his books are by no means boring or hard to read. I couldn't put War and Peace away because it was so historical, dramatic and detailed in a good way and I just wanted to know what happens next. Same for Anna Karenina, it also helped that I was 24 when I read it for the first time, because I have already had some romantic experience and I struggled to be either pro or contra Anna Karenina's actions. You can start with his novellas Kreutzer Sonata or Death of Ivan Ilyich to get the feel of Tolstoy. Don't be scared! :)
C.S. Lewis is great, but does not belong in that list.
C.S.路易斯确实很棒,但把他归进那个名单里不太合适。
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CS Lewis?
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minkhandjob30 赞2018/5/28
Probably the latter.
大概率是后者。
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I don't think he's a good enough author to be listed with the others.
我觉得他的文笔还没好到能跟其他人相提并论的地步。
daveofreckoning41 赞2018/5/28
CS Lewis? Are you high?
C.S.路易斯?你嗑大了吧?
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No. I searched a few lists before including him, because I didn't know if others thought he should be in the top authors of all time. Every list I found had him in the top 25.
I'm not sure if I would put C.S. Lewis in that list
我不太确定我会把 C.S. 路易斯放进那个榜单里。
FunkyGeneFlow103 赞2018/5/28
Recently finished reading War and Peace, I absolutely loved it. Now I want to read more of him
最近刚读完《战争与和平》,我简直太爱这本书了。现在我想读更多他的作品。
FlyingPasta36 赞2018/5/28
How long it it take ya
你花了多久读完啊?
SVMESSEFVIFVTVRVS71 赞2018/5/28
Honestly one of the best books I’ve ever read. It took me six months but I was in college reading other stuff at the same time it was worth the commitment. It really helps if you get a reader’s guide. There are multiple characters with multiple nicknames and the background goes on for like 4-500 pages before it gets really good. Get a good translation and you’ll be blown away. I read it twice...well, mostly at least.
Thanks for the note on the reading guide. I wish my russian was still good enough to read this book and enjoy it, but I'm hoping to pick up a good translation now
This is what he had to say about patriotism and government. That was before two world wars. "Bethink yourselves, people, and, for the sake of your bodily and spiritual good, and for the same good of your brothers and sisters, stop, think, reflect on what you are doing! Bethink yourselves and understand that not the Boers, English, French, Germans, Bohemians, Finns, Russians are your enemies, but that the only enemies are you yourselves, who with your patriotism support the governments, which oppress you and cause your misfortunes. They undertook to defend you against dangers, and have carried this condition of defence to such an extent that you have all become soldiers and slaves, that you are all ruined, that you are being ruined more and more, and may and must expect at any moment the breaking of the strained string and the terrible slaughter of you and your children. No matter how great the slaughter may be and how it may end, the condition will remain the same. Even so and with still greater tension will the governments arm and destroy and corrupt you and your children, and no one will help you to stop it all, if you are not going to help yourselves. There is but one help, and that is to destroy that terrible concatenation of the cone of violence, with which those who succeed in getting to the apex of the cone dominate the whole nation, and dominate the more surely, the more cruel and inhuman they are, as we know from the case of Napoleon, Nicholas Ⅰ., Bismarck, Chamberlain, Rhodes, and our dictators who rule the nation in the name of the Tsar. There is but one means for destroying this concatenation, and that is, to awaken from the hypnosis of patriotism. You must understand that all the evil from which you suffer you are causing yourselves, in that you submit to those suggestions by means of which you are deceived by the emperors, kings, members of parliaments, rulers, military men, capitalists, clergy, authors, artists, — by all those who need this deception of patriotism in order to be able to live by your labours. Whoever you may be, — a Frenchman, Russian, Pole, Englishman, Irishman, German, Bohemian, — you must understand that all our real human interests, whatever they be, — agricultural, industrial, commercial, artistic, or scientific, — all these interests, like all the pleasures and joys, in no way oppose the interests of the other nations and states, and that you are, by means of a mutual interaction, exchange of services, the joy of a broad brotherly communion, of an exchange not only of wares, but also of sentiments, united with the men of the other nations. You must understand that the questions as to who succeeds in seizing Wei\-hai\-wei, Port Arthur, or Cuba — whether it is your government or another — are by no means a matter of indifference to you, but that every seizure made by your government is detrimental to you, because it inevitably brings with it all kinds of influences, which your government will exert against you, in order to compel you to take part in robberies and acts of violence, which are necessary for the seizures and for the retention of what has been seized. You must understand that your life can in no way be improved by this, that Alsace will be German or French, and that Ireland and Poland are free or enslaved: no matter whose they may be, you can live wherever you please; even if you were an Alsatian, an Irishman, or a Pole, — you must understand that every fanning of patriotism will only make your position worse, because the enslavement of your nation has resulted only from the struggle of patriotisms, and that every manifestation of patriotism in one nation increases the reaction against it in another. You must understand that you can save yourselves from all your calamities only when you free yourselves from the obsolete idea of patriotism and from the obedience to the governments which is based upon it, and when you shall boldly enter into the sphere of that higher idea of the brotherly union of the nations, which has long ago entered into life and is calling you to itself from all sides. Let men understand that they are not the sons of any countries or governments, but the sons of God, and that, therefore, they cannot be slaves, nor enemies of other men, and all those senseless, now quite useless, pernicious institutions, bequeathed by antiquity, which are called governments, and all those sufferings, acts of violence, degradations, crimes, which they bring with them, will disappear of their own accord."
War and Peace! My favorite book. You might find it boring, depends on your tastes.
《战争与和平》!我的心头好。你可能会觉得这书挺无聊的,因人而异吧。
Reneeisme37 赞2018/5/28
Love it, but it took an effort to push through a lot of confusion before it grew on me. I think Anna Karenina is more readily accessible though everyone should eventually read both.
Looks like a huge time investment. Can you tell us what you enjoyed most about it?
看起来得花不少时间去啃啊。能不能跟咱们分享一下,你觉得它最吸引你的地方在哪儿?
prunesandprisms28 赞2018/5/28
One of the reasons it's so long is that it was originally published one chapter a week in a Russian newspaper. I made a simple [app](http://warinpiec.es) that will send you a chapter a week of those or similar books--try it out if that interests you!
Not OP, but currently reading W&P. It's [quite a mouthful](https://imgur.com/a/02pDa3K); I recommend the e-reader version. It's wonderfully immersive, and you are guaranteed reading material for months or years.
Start off with some of the short stories so you get the feel for it, maybe like The Death of Ivan Illych. Then move up, I haven't read War and Peace but Anna Karenina was pretty great.
The man has class. He's doing The Al Bundy on the outside if his pants
这哥们儿真有范儿。他裤子外头那招简直是阿尔·邦迪(Al Bundy)附体。
jecinci12 赞2018/5/28
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Al Bundy was also a football legend.
阿尔·邦迪(Al Bundy)也曾是橄榄球界的传奇人物。
LincolnBeckett11 赞2018/5/28
“Star Wars and Peace”
“星球大战与和平”
AnderLouis_10 赞2018/5/28
This will probably get buried, but anyone thinking of tackling War & Peace should check out my absolute favourite subreddit and join in the 2000+ redditors doing the read-along. There's even a daily podcast to go along with the project.
这条评论估计会被沉底,但任何想挑战《战争与和平》的人,都应该去看看我最爱的子版块
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Tolstoy - much like Dovstoyesky - gave us quite a peek into the grim parts of human existence and the mind.
托尔斯泰——和陀思妥耶夫斯基挺像的——让我们相当深入地窥探了人性中那些灰暗面以及内心世界。
trevpr110 赞2018/5/28
Disney Pixar are making a film about him
Tolstoy Story
I'd recommend to anyone that wants to read Tolstoy, to not start with war and peace and instead start with Anna Karenina.
我建议任何想读托尔斯泰的人,千万别从《战争与和平》开始,还是先读《安娜·卡列尼娜》吧。
IceNein5 赞2018/5/28
Leo Tolstoy should play Obi-Wan Kenobi in the individual spin off movie.
列夫·托尔斯泰应该在个人衍生电影里演欧比旺·克诺比。
dengop5 赞2018/5/28
What I find human rather amazing is that just by its appearance, you can never assume the person's inner ability. Look at him. If you saw him in the street, you'll merely think he's a cranky looking man with a cane who will curse at you if you bump with him. You'll never guess he's a man with tremendous writing talent with the acumen and intellect to dissect the society for the world. He is the true testament of do not judge a book by its cover.