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105mm shells from an allied bombardment all fired in a single day on German lines, 1916. [1300 × 943]
105mm shells from an allied bombardment all fired in a single day on German lines, 1916. [1300 × 943]
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[已删除]1,189 赞2018/1/9
Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast multipart series on WWI goes through the full numbe weight of shells at specific days during the war. It's absolutely staggering.
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Micosilver92 赞2018/1/9
They also dropped more bombs in Vietnam War than WWII.
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Pyrepenol40 赞2018/1/10
Also, we very much had total air dominance. There was usually very little threat of a bomber being shot down from high altitude. It was much riskier during ww2
ofd22728 赞2018/1/10
It was a way for the military to clean out their closets from all the WWII surplus they had.
poloport16 赞2018/1/10
> During the final years of the war, an average of 24,000 shells were falling on UN lines every day. In the first months of the war, in 1914, Russia alone was using 40,000 shells a day. As a comparison they could produce 30,000 shells a month. While things did go down as the war went on, due to the exhaustion of explosive reserves, the sheer amount of shells used in the first couple of months of WW1 are pretty much unmatched since.
my_dear_watson557 赞2018/1/9
The series is Blueprint for Armageddon, I believe. Edit: I highly recommend his Common Sense podcast as well. Dan is the shit
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Best part of that whole series is the description that shelling is like being tied to a post, while an enormous man swings a hammer and lands it inches above your head. For hours. And hours.
CornerSolution280 赞2018/1/10
What you're referring to is a quote from Ernst Junger's WW1 memoir *Storm of Steel*. The full passage is: > It’s an easier matter to describe these sounds than to endure them, because one cannot but associate every single sound of flying steel with the idea of death, and so I huddled in my hole in the ground with my hand in front of my face, imagining all the possible variants of being hit. I think I have found a comparison that captures the situation in which I and all the other soldiers who took part in this war so often found ourselves: you must imagine you are securely tied to a post, being menaced by a man swinging a heavy hammer. Now the hammer has been taken back over his head, ready to be swung, now it’s cleaving the air towards you, on the point of touching your skull, then it’s struck the post, and the splinters are flying — that’s what it’s like to experience heavy shelling in an exposed position.
[已删除]95 赞2018/1/10
I cannot imagine enduring something this terrifying, and then one lives "shell-shocked" for the rest of their life... Hell truly is a place on Earth.
guto8797103 赞2018/1/10
Remember that on top of it all, shell shocked men were ridiculed at home for being "weak". There were movements where young women would place white flowers on the coats of men that didn't volunteer or got conscripted for the war, be it 14 year olds, or cripples and mentally damaged soldiers dismissed from duty.
JonathanRL69 赞2018/1/10
In WW2, special insignia was designed so that other people could see that either they served or got a medical; think it was in Britain, Australia or Canada. Trying to figure out what it was called. EDIT:
Also found this shit
>A 15-year-old boy lied about his age to get into the army in 1914. He was in the retreat from Mons, the Battle of the Marne and the first Battle of Ypres, before he caught a fever and was sent home. Walking across Putney Bridge, four girls gave him white feathers. "I explained to them that I had been in the army and been discharged, and I was still only 16. Several people had collected around the girls and there was giggling, and I felt most uncomfortable and ... very humiliated." He walked straight into the nearest recruiting office and rejoined the army. and >Extracted from the Guardian, May 17 2008. The Order of the White Feather, founded in August 1914 by Admiral Charles Fitzgerald, encouraged women to give out white feathers to young men who had not joined the British army.
[已删除]21 赞2018/1/10
They were upset those men hadn’t taken full advantage of their privilege and that they had to stay at home away from front lines getting to live.
[已删除]17 赞2018/1/10
i'm sure those movements had a great impact on all the millions of soldiers with severe PTSD /s
mirandapdrn29 赞2018/1/10
Shortened life, they now believe shell shock is actually CTE. I've been rumbled a few times, I'm just hoping I wasn't permanently damaged, but I'm pretty sure I was. I often just start crying for no reason. It happens just short of daily. I'm scared.
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I hoped someone would find the original quote. Thanks man.
NomSang20 赞2018/1/10
There's a song by a group called The Safety Fire called Huge Hammers written from the perspective of a shell-shocked soldier coming under attack like this. If you like heavy music, it's worth a listen with the lyrics up.
Drewtyler657 赞2018/1/9
Funnily enough I just started part 1 at work this morning, he can definitely reel in these topics perfectly.
my_dear_watson66 赞2018/1/9
You've got quite a bit of listening ahead of you. I suggest the Wrath of the Khans once you're through
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The Ghosts of the Ostfront
inxile723 赞2018/1/10
Would also recommend "We are the destroyer of worlds". Basically talks about everything in the cold war leading up to the Cuban missile crisis.
VandelayIndustreez22 赞2018/1/10
Dan Carlin has gotten me through countless hours of work.
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mmmwags18 赞2018/1/10
He has another relatively new one too: Hardcore History Addendum. The focus is other history topics and interviews that might not fit the format of the original show. Plus, the second episode is an interview with another great history podcaster, Mike Duncan (History of Rome, Revolutions).
Ron_Jeremy23 赞2018/1/10
Dan is a little intense. His political podcasts are a little too truth must be in the middle for me. The breathless intensity of his...it absolutely works for the WWI series he did. And the one he did on the eastern front of WWII. He’s very much about painting a picture of what it would have been like to have been there in Be trenches. And for that, Dan Carlin is excellent.
AirFell8534 赞2018/1/9
The part on the coordinated rolling artillery strikes with infantry coming in right behind, or the psychological aspect of shelling... man that had to have been rough. The things humans put other humans through is astounding.
[已删除]26 赞2018/1/9
My grandfather was corpsman in the 1st Marine Division during Korea and was pinned down in the Chosin Reservoir. The photos I have of him from right after the battle are heart breaking.
digableplanet31 赞2018/1/9
What did they do with the empty shells? Recycle them? Melt them down and make new shells? Genuinely curious. Edit: everyone who answered below. Thank you. I've wondered about this for many moons but always forget to actually look it up.
OrganicChemistrysux61 赞2018/1/9
They recycled them to make new shells
Canaris115 赞2018/1/10
At todays prices for brass at $1.90 a pound... there's quite a bit.
F0sh45 赞2018/1/9
The empty shells would be refilled as explained in [this episode of The Great War's *Out of the Trenches* sub-series](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7zHFIKrrLg?t=3m00s). They didn't need to be melted down as part of this process.
revolverevlover59 赞2018/1/9
It *was* staggering, indeed. I'd listened to a fair amount of his pods before that series, but after Blueprint for Armageddon, I just got this nearly overwhelming sense of dread over the things humankind does to one another. We've a long history of war, of course, but WW1 was just fucking awful.
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It's genuinely shocking how bad it really was. People dismiss ww3 like "maybe it will happen" when I don't think they get how bad it would be. I mean after the war you'd be lucky to be alive but if you were it would be like going back in time. It's crazy to think of how bad things would get so quickly if we lost satellites. The whole world would be anarchy
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One of the long standing principles of modern war is that as technology progresses, the percentage of the population that gets pulled into the war for the participating countries goes up, and the victory conditions outside of completely annihilating your enemy's ability to keep fielding an army disappear. World war 3 would be incomprehensibly destructive.
Chili_Paste16 赞2018/1/9
I just finished Blueprint for Armageddon, it was the first time i had ever heard an artillery bombardment referred to as "drum fire" due to the not stop drum roll of explosions
934 赞2018/1/9
Every year, and I do mean *every year* several *hundred tonnes* of munitions, some of it still live, is dug up in parts of France and Belgium. Hundreds of people have died from these munitions exploding in the century after the war. The last casualty of the First World War has probably not even been born yet.
276 赞2018/1/10
A few years ago they dug up a half-ton bomb near me. Evacuated everyone in a km around it. We were outside of that, but told to keep windows open and not stand near them. Luckily it didn't blow up, but I can only imagine how terrified the dude in that bulldozer must've been. Scariest part is that they found it underneath what used to be a tramstation and later a market. Imagine if it decided to go boom on its own.
206 赞2018/1/10
In Germany we have special teams who are looking via GPS around every big city for bombs. A few years ago there was a huge explosion (controlled) in munich from a ww2 bomb https://youtu.be/idF3Nq11BcM EDIT
There is an german article about the people who live in that quarter of the city and how they were evacuated.
Its about how the quarter was "killed" because many shops, bars and hairdressers closed afterwards. And many builings had to be demoliged and rebuild.
I think its quite interesting what a bomb does to a city even tho it was a controlled explosion and nobody was hurt. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/fliegerbombe-wie-die-bombe-schwabing-veraendert-hat-1.3640302
118 赞2018/1/10
Oh my god, that's immense. Imagine during the war, this happening constantly, all over the place among gunfire and such. Insane.
73 赞2018/1/10
Just keep in mind that a lot of this fire probably came from all the stuff they stacked on the detonation site to keep the blast force down. AFAIK they used straw?! That set a couple of buildings in the vicinity on fire. Source: Am from munich. //EDIT: Doesn't make your point invalid though, at all!
18 赞2018/1/10
On a side, and completely unrelated note, does anyone know the font used at the beginning of this video?
110 赞2018/1/10
In the UK we still get the occasional bomb from the blitz found.
49 赞2018/1/10
However there lucky aren't any WW1 Frontline going through the UK
56 赞2018/1/10
> The last casualty of the First World War has probably not even been born yet. I read somewhere that at the current and expected rate of clearing unexplored mines etc., certain wars will still be claiming casualties for several centuries from now... All those sci-fi and fantasy stories about ancient guardians and traps remaining lethally effective for thousands of years don’t seem so implausible now, do they? :)
24 赞2018/1/10
about 4 people die a week in Laos from unexploded ordnance
57 赞2018/1/10
Google "zone rouge". There are no-go areas in the French countryside that are too dangerous to enter due to unexploded ordinance.
95 赞2018/1/10
To those interested: There are areas within that zone where the soil is 17% arsenic, and not even plants can live. In the worst parts, they found 100m x 100m areas of ground to contain 300+ pieces of unexploded ordnance. At the current rate of clean-up, it's estimated that it'll be clear in 700 years, at the soonest. The description of the zone, defined shortly after the war: > Completely devastated. Damage to properties: 100%. Damage to Agriculture: 100%. Impossible to clean. Human life impossible.
23 赞2018/1/10
Where did you get that description from?
29 赞2018/1/10
I pulled all of that info from the [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge) on the subject.
31 赞2018/1/10
Wow, thanks. >Some areas remain off limits (for example two small pieces of land close to Ypres and Woëvre) where 99% of all plants still die, as arsenic can constitute up to 17% of some soil samples (Bausinger, Bonnaire, and Preuß, 2007). Incredible.
18 赞2018/1/10
I was at Verdun just a couple years back in 2015. It was a dreary overcast chilly day in February. So quiet. Almost eerily so.
18 赞2018/1/10
I saw Verdun last summer and drove through one of them. It is absolutely surreal. Iv spent most of my life until recently as an artilleryman, and have a healthy respect for what artillery can do, but the sheer volume and length of the WW1 shelling boggles the mind. Dan Carlins blueprint for Armageddon covered it in detail, but the combatant nations had been stockpiling artillery for years/decades prior to WW1. The conflict began in August 1914 and by October the entire stockpiles of the nation's artillery shells were empty. And that was 3 months into a 5 year long war, before the trenches were even dug.
51 赞2018/1/9
One can only speculate...
36 赞2018/1/9
I read that with the woman's voice from BF1 in my mind.
746 赞2018/1/9
I wonder if the rounds stacked neatly at the back of the pile are duds.
334 赞2018/1/9
Those look like only the projectiles. Could be that they were duds and they pulled them out of the casing to recycle.
77 赞2018/1/10
Depending on what gun was used the shell and the casing may not have been together in the first place. In [this video of the M101](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2NOuhTCkd8) the shell and casing arrive separately and are put together before putting them into the gun. With the [British L118 Light Gun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYqURVoqlXw) they arrive separately and are loaded separately. However, in either case, if the shell itself were a dud then you wouldn't know about it at all, just the person on the receiving end might wonder what the thump was. Source: Was attached to an L118 Light Gun detachment in Afghanistan.
22 赞2018/1/10
But I thought they hired rabbits to hit shells with hammers in the factory, to determine which were duds?
59 赞2018/1/10
Probably for safety reasons too
140 赞2018/1/10
Safety wasn't a thing in 1916.
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22 赞2018/1/10
I never understood how in Battlefield 1 they had mountains of empty shells on the floor, I thought it was for aesthetics purposes.
40 赞2018/1/10
Looks like they started stacking some neatly then just went "fuck it" and threw the rest all over the place
37 赞2018/1/10
I agree. This is exactly the process that occurred when I loaded trucks at the Big brown shipping company.
470 赞2018/1/9
Something like 18 million shells have been unearthed in France and surrounding theatres, estimated that there are probably another 12 million buried. Basically, 100+ years later, these are still war zones with live shells. Absolutely astounding
213 赞2018/1/10
And the little bits of France- the [Zone Rouge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge) that are simply uninhabitable by humans, due to gas/chemical warfare residue and the layer of bombs in the earth still.
46 赞2018/1/10
And now we can do an action simulation farm simulator.
54 赞2018/1/10
Farming Simulator 17- The Western Front.
54 赞2018/1/10
I went to Latvia and met a fella who did metal detecting and had an entire plastic shopping bag full of clips of 8mm Mauser and 7.62mm for Mosin, as well as scattered rounds of StG-44 ammo. I went metal detecting and found a spent StG-44 casing myself. The gunpowder in the bullets still burns excellently, by the way.
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146 赞2018/1/10
Here is a [Youtube video] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRPFQMO8yX4) simulating what it would sound like to be under this type of Barrage.
41 赞2018/1/10
That's really insane
47 赞2018/1/10
Hollywood really needs to make a kick-in-the-nuts movie about WWI, on par with ‘The Pianist’, but focusing on the horrors of trench warfare. Thanks for the clip.
36 赞2018/1/10
Damn, I'm a bit traumatised just listening to this in my comfy chair.
15 赞2018/1/10
I know right? I got chills the first time I heard it.
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48 赞2018/1/10
Damn thats super clever, and says alot about french art culture
118 赞2018/1/10
"Company that uses brass in their product uses source of very cheap brass."
89 赞2018/1/10
If you ever wondered why so few European churches have bells in their bell towers, now you know.
56 赞2018/1/10
Really? They used the brass from church bells?
69 赞2018/1/10
By the end of the war the Germans were scrapping all sorts of things to feed the munitions machine. They were down to eating anything they could get their hands on and melting down anything that wasn't necesary for day to day life.
32 赞2018/1/10
What a fucking waste.
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66 赞2018/1/10
No, troops just liked the sound the bells made when hit. The bells could only take so much before they deformed or fell from the towers. Then they were scrapped for munition production
26 赞2018/1/10
I've never seen a church without a bell in Europe, lol. Do you think in 100 years nobody ever managed to replace a bell?
76 赞2018/1/9
Gestern habe ich ihn gesehen, diesen Artillerieoffizier, den sie Durchbruchmüller nennen. Er ist hier, um die Symphonie unserer zehntausend Geschütze zu dirigieren, die in nur fünf Stunden drei Millionen Granaten abfeuern. Über die feindlichen Linien fegt eine Wolke aus Flammen und Asche hinweg. So muss das Ende der Welt aussehen. Mir tun die armen Tommys in ihren Gräben beinahe Leid, wie sie versuchen das alles zu verstehen.
25 赞2018/1/10
This infernal bombardment... the noise... the smoke... DA MOST TREMENDOUS CANNONADE EYE’VE EVA HERD
49 赞2018/1/10
The scope of war is always mind boggling.
67 赞2018/1/10
It does make you wonder what the current state of the world would be had Europe not decided to blow itself up from 1914 to 1945.
67 赞2018/1/10
It's really an impossible thing to quantify just because of how significantly it changed the world. I mean it just changed or affected everything. Germany, France, and Britain take a step back, US and USSR step forward, leads to the cold war (which leads to Korea, Vietnam, and dozens of other incidents), the atomic bomb gets invented. It's insane how these wars defined the next hundred+ years of humanity.
57 赞2018/1/10
Set up the end of colonialism, pretty much was the death knell for monarchy, destroyed a massive amount of capital and manpower, established the notion that "human rights" might be a decent thing to actually enforce...yeah, it was a mighty big swerve.
15 赞2018/1/10
Also, it was a big propellor in european integration and the notion of self determination.
18 赞2018/1/10
Which is why the recent retreat from international cooperation is so terrifying. These institutions like the EU, however flawed they may be, exist for a reason. People are once again forgetting the horrors of war, and we as a species will not survive the next big one.
18 赞2018/1/10
War was honeslty inevitable at some point during the first half of the 20th century, since most countries in Europe were really keen to war against eachother in 1914- the fact that it "started" by some guy in Serbia being assassinated showed that it only took a relatively small domino for nations to start fighting. The real question, however, is what would've happened if the Treaty of Versailles never happened and the Western powers actually helped Germany post-WW1 like they did in WW2. The punative sanctions against Germany + the depression was one of the main catalysts for the rise of Hitler. If Hitler never happened, the whole scope of WW2 would've changed since it wouldn't have been so Western Europe based- the USSR would've slowly started to exert its influence and gained power rather than break into war instantly in 1939. Whether the US would've been as interventionist is also a big question, and hence their influence would've been greatly diminshed compared to the combined powers of the UK+France+Germany. It's almost insane to think how a period of 10-20 years changed the course of the century and the world as we know it.
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“BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM BOOM” - Pvt. Baldrick 1916
21 赞2018/1/10
Slightly incorrect. The famed and highly respected nuanced work by Private S. Baldrick titled The German Guns is actually: Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom
32 赞2018/1/10
Never been to war, but I've been shot at before and it really shook me up. I think about it all the time, have flashbacks to when it happened. All I remember thinking is getting distance and a barrier between me and the shooter. That's the thing about artillery that terrifies me. Nowhere to run.
34 赞2018/1/10
Not only nowhere to run, but being like the third wave of people to have to go over the top, knowing everyone in the first two waves in front of you just got slaughtered.
21 赞2018/1/10
"Theirs is not to reason why" The type of bravery it takes to run toward gunfire... I can tell you every fiber of your rational being tells you to run and not look back.
27 赞2018/1/9
Somewhat related article https://www.google.ca/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-world-war-bombs-still-3862370.amp
27 赞2018/1/9
Massive bombardment? 1916? Are we talking about the first day of the Somme here?
35 赞2018/1/9
Possibly, but looking at the state of those trees I'd say more around the end of the Somme offensive, so somewhere around Septembe
25 赞2018/1/10
I don't think people realize how devastating the invention of modern artillery was. IIRC 70% of action related deaths in the First World War were from artillery. To give an example, my grandmother had four cousins die in the First World War, three of whom were brothers. All of them died from artillery.
18 赞2018/1/10
I ran a quick calculation in another post a while back, seems appropriate here: >the shellfire in WW1 simply cannot be imagined. There were **over 1.5 billion shells fired** during the war (July 28 1914 - Nov 11 1918). That works out to **nearly a million shells per day (957,243), every day, for 4 years straight**.
The allies alone fired 4,283,550 shells during the first two weeks at the Battle of Passchendaele.
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Would hate to be apart of that police call...
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Would these get recycled? I assume yes?
6 赞2018/1/10
My grandmother had one of these in her spare room when I was little. For the longest time I used it as a trashcan thinking that's what it was.
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26244418-the-allure-of-battle My history professor used this image for the cover of his book!
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You run across those in battlefield 1 and everyone can hear you coming.
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Is he taking a photo with his smartphone?