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1948年5月20日,当乔治·吉列(George Gillette)签署协议,被迫让出15.5万英亩肥沃土地以修建北达科他州的加里森大坝(Garrison Dam)时,这位福特伯特霍尔德印第安部落委员会主席不禁潸然泪下。

1948年5月20日,当乔治·吉列(George Gillette)签署协议,被迫让出15.5万英亩肥沃土地以修建北达科他州的加里森大坝(Garrison Dam)时,这位福特伯特霍尔德印第安部落委员会主席不禁潸然泪下。

1948年5月20日,北达科他州,福特伯特霍尔德印第安部落委员会主席乔治·吉莱特在签署协议,被迫让出15.5万英亩肥沃土地以修建加里森大坝时,不禁潸然泪下。

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Skyremmer102603 赞2026/4/19
Honestly tragic.
真的太惨了。
Wooden_Coffee_9482150 赞2026/4/19
mhm, atp there wasnt much of an option
嗯,讲真当时也没啥别的选择了。
GoGG99947 赞2026/4/19
The government had the option to pay a fair price for those lands but they didn't.
政府本来是有机会出个公道价买下那些地的,但他们没这么做。
Skyremmer102121 赞2026/4/19
Which makes it all the more tragic
这让整件事显得更悲剧了。
No-One989031 赞2026/4/19
What was going on?
当时到底发生了什么?
Wooden_Coffee_9482252 赞2026/4/19
george gillette the leader of the mandan hidatsa arikara the three affiliated nations was forced to sign away 155,000 acres for the garrison dam, Garrison Dam project, which flooded 94% of the tribe's agricultural land and forced them to relocate
曼丹、希达沙和阿里卡拉三部落的领袖乔治·吉列特,被迫签协议割让了15万5千英亩土地给加里森大坝项目,这直接淹没了他们94%的农耕地,还强迫他们搬迁。
Swift_Scythe192 赞2026/4/19
So their homes and ancestral burial grounds and religious lands and monuments all underwater or demolished...
所以他们的家园、祖坟、宗教圣地和遗迹全都沉在水底或者被拆毁了……
Wooden_Coffee_9482190 赞2026/4/19
not only that the land that was destroyed was extremely rich and fertile
不仅如此,被毁掉的那些地可是肥得流油的良田啊。
Wooden_Coffee_948293 赞2026/4/19
yeah, from what i read they didnt recover from it yet
是啊,我看过资料,他们到现在都没缓过劲儿来。
lewisfairchild31 赞2026/4/19
they never recovered from it
他们压根就没恢复过来。
No-One989026 赞2026/4/19
Wow, thats horrible
哇,那也太惨了。
Sacharon12322 赞2026/4/19
!Why was there no option? I mean, depends how caring your goverment is in history and values I guess...
为啥没得选啊?我觉得吧,这事儿主要还是看你那政府在历史观和价值观上到底有多“上心”……
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Wooden_Coffee_948224 赞2026/4/19
the government pressured him into doing so
是政府逼他这么干的。
Mercury_Madulller69 赞2026/4/19
Considering we could now replace all the hydro plants, with nuclear plants in about 10 years, and undo all the ecological damage they caused. Yeah, horrifically tragic.
考虑到我们现在要是想把所有水电站换成核电站,大概十年就能搞定,还能把它们造成的生态破坏全给修复了。没错,确实是惨剧一场。
RollinThundaga17 赞2026/4/19
>ecological damage caused by building nuclear power plants You mean with the resevoirs or something? Or are you just assuming that there's a dozen little Chernobyls in the Mississippi watershed that just aren't being covered?
>核电站建设造成的生态破坏 你是指水库之类的吗?还是说你只是在臆想密西西比河流域里藏着十几个切尔诺贝利,只是没被报道出来而已?
Mercury_Madulller19 赞2026/4/19
I will reword that statement, did not mean that as taken in that context.
你是指水库那档子事儿?还是说你觉得密西西比河流域其实藏着十几个切尔诺贝利,只不过没人报道而已?
tokegar29 赞2026/4/19
Nuclear is an objectively safe option for renewable energy, but I will say that I wrote a paper in law school about the environmental exploitation of tribal sovereignty land and how so much of America's uranium (specifically for the Manhatten project and related weapons development) came from Navajo reservation land that has never been conclusively remediated. It's sickening how all of the "treaties" signed by this country with Native American nations are broken irreparably at every turn.
从客观角度看,核能确实是一种安全的能源选择,但我得提一下,我读法学院时写过一篇论文,讲的是对原住民部落主权土地的环境剥削。美国很大一部分铀矿(特别是用于曼哈顿计划及相关武器研发的)都来自纳瓦霍保留地,而那里的环境至今从未得到彻底的修复。这个国家与美洲原住民各部落签署的所有“条约”在每一个关头都被不可挽回地撕毁了,真是让人作呕。
Specialist-Front-007345 赞2026/4/19
Very telling that no one is able to look at him
核能客观上确实是种安全的清洁能源方案,但我得说,我在法学院写过一篇关于部落主权土地环境剥削的论文。美国很大一部分铀矿(尤其是曼哈顿计划和相关武器研发用的)都来自纳瓦霍保留地,而那些地方至今都没能得到彻底的治理。这个国家跟原住民部落签的那些“条约”,到头来全被毁得连渣都不剩,真让人恶心。
Renbarre227 赞2026/4/19
They probably didn't care. He was 'just an Indian'. No racism intended, that was the name they used at the time.
他们大概根本不在乎吧。他当时在他们眼里“不过是个印第安人”。 我没有任何种族歧视的意思,那确实是当时他们用的称呼。
GiveMeSumChonChon84 赞2026/4/19
Boarding schools would use the phrase. “Kill the Indian, save the man”
他们估计根本不在乎吧。毕竟当时他“只是个印第安人”。
Phone-Medical36 赞2026/4/20
Now they use the phrase “Gillette, the best a man can get!”
现在他们都用那句“吉列,男人的极致!”(Gillette, the best a man can get!)
Profilio9049 赞2026/4/20
They saw the "Indians" as savages and believed they were being wasteful with all their fertile land / resources. Taking land from the godless savages to put to use was doing the Lord's work in their mind. See "manifest destiny" for more.
他们把“印第安人”看作野蛮人,觉得这些人守着肥沃的土地和资源简直是暴殄天物。在他们看来,从这些没信仰的野蛮人手里把地抢过来并加以利用,那是在替天行道。
Wooden_Coffee_948238 赞2026/4/20
and even that didnt work as we’re still here and have our own people working against everything the government did to our ancestors, the stories from the boarding schools/residential schools are gut wrenching and absolutely disgusting
而且即便那样也没得逞,因为我们还在这儿呢,而且我们自己人还在对抗政府当年对我祖辈干的那些破事。寄宿学校/感化学校里的那些往事简直让人揪心,恶心透了。
nycbaybee88166 赞2026/4/19
This makes me feel sick and devastated
这让我觉得难受又崩溃。
Wooden_Coffee_948272 赞2026/4/19
all of history is sick and disgusting tbh
说真的,整部历史就是个大写的恶心。
Moist-Pickle-273627 赞2026/4/19
There’s plenty of wonderful and uplifting history
历史里也有很多美好和振奋人心的部分。
LWillter80 赞2026/4/19
This land is your land = this land is my land
这片土地是你的土地 = 这片土地是我的土地。
Tak_101378 赞2026/4/19
The book Cadillac Desert has a section describing the displacement of the 3 tribes relocated for this dam. The hydrologic benefits were extremely minor and retaining some of the most fertile agricultural land in the Dakotas was never an option in negotiations. This was one of the stories that made me the most frustrated in that book, however there are many more.
《凯迪拉克沙漠》(Cadillac Desert)这本书里有一节专门描述了那三个部落为了建水坝被强制迁徙的经过。所谓的水利效益微乎其微,而且在谈判桌上,保留达科他地区那些最肥沃的农耕地压根儿就没被列入过选项。
Wooden_Coffee_948219 赞2026/4/20
mhm, these lands were extremely rich, and couldve benefited these tribes and the US itself, however reserves were designed to kill the indians
嗯哼,这些土地肥得流油,本来完全可以造福部落甚至整个美国,但保留地制度的设计初衷就是为了干掉印第安人。
Kirook16 赞2026/4/20
> The Fort Berthold Indians have never recovered from the trauma they underwent. Their whole sense of cohesiveness was lost, and they adjusted badly to life on the arid plains and in the white towns. But no humiliation could have been greater than for them to see the signs that were erected around the reservoir as it slowly filled, submerging the dying cottonwoods and drowning the land they had occupied for at least four hundred years. In what looked to the Indians like a stroke of malevolent inspiration, the Corps of Engineers had decided to call the giant, turbid pool of water Lake Sacajawea.
> “伯特霍尔德堡(Fort Berthold)的印第安人至今都没能从当年的创伤中走出来。他们整个民族的凝聚力彻底散了,也没法适应干燥平原和白人城镇的生活。但最令他们感到屈辱的,莫过于看着那些竖立在水库周围的告示牌——随着水库水位慢慢上涨,淹没了垂死的棉白杨,也淹没了他们居住了至少四百年的土地。在印第安人看来,工程兵部队(Corps of Engineers)搞出的这摊浑浊巨水,还起名叫‘萨卡加维亚湖’(Lake Sacajawea),简直是丧尽天良的恶毒点子。”
nomamesgueyz76 赞2026/4/19
As part of the US and their genocide over Native Americans
这是美国对印第安人进行种族灭绝的一部分
atwaterrich26 赞2026/4/19
This way of thinking about history has been officially outlawed. Please replace crying man with joyful one. Insert apologist and supremacist arguments for genocide into all references. Only positive statements allowed going forward. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
这种看待历史的方式已经被官方禁止了。请把哭脸换成笑脸。在所有引用中加入为种族灭绝辩护和至上主义的论调。今后只允许积极陈述。谢谢你的关注。
DistrictEffective75944 赞2026/4/19
Damn bro. I want to say pure evil but I don’t know the story. So, damn bro.
卧槽哥们。我想说纯粹的邪恶,但我不知道故事。所以,卧槽哥们。
ThinkBlue8710 赞2026/4/20
The tribe has had a huge influx of money over the past 15 years, sitting right over the heart of the Bakken oil play. A blessing and a curse
过去15年,部落因为坐拥巴肯油田的核心区域,获得了巨额收入。祸福相依啊。
basileusnikephorus5 赞2026/4/19
The intrusive thoughts are telling me to post the Phil Leotardo quote ...
脑子里一直有个声音叫我发菲尔·利奥塔多的语录……
corsicanbandit5 赞2026/4/19
Why did he do it?
他为什么这么做?
SimpleZestyclose63974 赞2026/4/20
Aaaah the famous good old Times when White men could do what they wanted openly without any back fire
啊,好日子啊,那时候白人就可以为所欲为,毫无顾忌。
No-Obligation41474 赞2026/4/23
America really is one of the most delusional and backwards countries on the planet. Absolutely no fucks given about anyone or anything unless they can abuse it, use it and steal it. The. Make a film about how they were the victims. I can’t stand the inability to actually see wrong, doubling down on it and then electing the single worst human born to be the poster boy of that 3rd world backwards shithole. Get shot in the face by a school child and you’ll lose your house paying for having surgery.
美国真是地球上最自欺欺人和倒退的国家之一。根本就不鸟任何人或任何事,除非能虐待、利用和偷窃。然后,拍一部电影说他们自己才是受害者。我受不了他们看不到错误,还死不承认,最后还选出了史上最差劲的那个混蛋,作为那个第三世界倒退粪坑的代表。被小学生一枪打脸,你还得倾家荡产付手术费。
baggalleelee3 赞2026/4/21
This is so so sad.
太他妈的难过了。
meagle12233 赞2026/4/23
George Gillette is my great-great grandfather. I’ve seen this photograph thousands of times, and even now when I see it, I get emotional. For me, this photo personifies historical trauma. Our tribe is known as the Three Affiliated Tribes or the MHA (Mandan, Hidatsa, Arikara) Nation … and we’re still here.
乔治·吉列特是我曾曾祖父。这张照片我看了千百遍了,直到现在看到,我还是会鼻子一酸。对我来说,这张照片就是历史创伤的化身。
NoAlternative81741 赞2026/4/21
What were they given in return?
他们又得到了什么回报?
No_Artichoke38681 赞2026/4/21
Navajos were smart with their dealings with us gov tho
纳瓦霍人跟咱们政府打交道时挺聪明的
irasleepsover1 赞2026/4/21
The tragedy of helplessness is really felt in this image.
这张图让人真切地感受到了那种无能为力的悲剧。
irasleepsover1 赞2026/4/21
The tragedy of helplessness is really felt in this image.
这张图让人真切地感受到了那种无能为力的悲剧。
peachybum68jk691 赞2026/4/22
Heart-wrenching
让人心碎
openmic10761 赞2026/4/22
💔
💔
SimpleEntrepreneur821 赞2026/4/22
Great book.
很棒的书。
Aggravating_Alps_9111 赞2026/4/22
womp womp womp
唉,真让人唏嘘
Revolutionary_Bet4681 赞2026/4/22
Not trying to argue but I always thought that Jewish people and Native Americans got fucked over more than anyone else. Circassians in the top 3 as well, and if you don't know who they are there's a sad reason for it.
不是想抬杠,但我一直觉得犹太人和美洲原住民比任何人都惨。高加索人也排在前三,如果你不知道他们是谁,那可真是个悲伤的原因。
Kaito__14121 赞2026/4/23
Well... At least they built something useful on that land.
嗯……至少他们在那块地上建了点有用的东西。
BenRichards3031 赞28 天前
The fucking man. Keeps everyone down.
真他妈是个混蛋。一直打压所有人。
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