1936年的德国
1936年纳粹德国时期的影像。这一年柏林举办了夏季奥运会。
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Ozzie_the_tiger_cat698 赞2025/9/22
What was crazy is that 36 is when my Jewish great-grandfather was visiting from the US that year to see his sisters who stayed. He immigrated in the early teens before WWI. This trip was the last he ever saw his sisters or their families. He went back in 46 but never found a trace of them, their kids, no one in his extended family. They just vanished. They were from around Munich so its likely this saw something like this. I can't imagine what was going through his mind.
最离谱的是，我那位犹太曾祖父36年回国探望留在当地的姐妹时，正好是那一年。他在一战前十几岁的时候就移民去美国了。那次探亲是他最后一次见到他的姐妹及其家人。46年他回去过，但再也没找到她们、她们的孩子，或者是任何亲戚的踪迹。她们就像人间蒸发了一样。
Runic_reader451263 赞2025/9/23
The Nazis kept good records of everything they did including deporting Jewish populations to death camps. Have you checked German records?
纳粹对他们所做的一切都有非常详尽的记录，包括将犹太人驱逐到死亡集中营。你查过德国那边的档案吗？
Ozzie_the_tiger_cat278 赞2025/9/21
We have. They did keep good records but they did destroy many of them. My grandmother spent a lot of time trying to find out. Personally, what I think happened is they were transported somewhere and shot/starved at a small camp or something like that and their records were some of the ones that were destroyed. My 99 year old grandma still has the letters in German he and his sisters wrote to each other.
我们确实查过。他们当时的记录保存得还行，但确实销毁了不少。我奶奶花了大把时间去搞清楚这件事。
我个人觉得，他们应该是被转移到了某个地方，然后在某个小集中营之类的地点被枪决或者饿死了，而关于他们的记录恰好就在被销毁的那批里。我奶奶今年99岁了，还留着他和他姐妹们当时互通的德语信件。
Runic_reader45188 赞2025/9/23
How about Yad Vashem in Israel? I hear they have a lot of records of the Nazi deportations and crimes. I do my own family research and I find tracking down information challenging and rewarding. Also wondering if Munich had a city directory you could consult. It may help narrow down when they were sent to the death camps. My condolences for your family's loss.
以色列的亚德瓦谢姆（Yad Vashem）大屠杀纪念馆呢？我听说那里有大量关于纳粹驱逐和罪行的档案。我自己也在做家谱研究，我觉得追踪这些信息既有难度又很有成就感。另外，你可以查查看慕尼黑有没有城市名录，或许能帮你缩小她们被送往死亡集中营的时间范围。为你家族的遭遇感到难过。
Ozzie_the_tiger_cat72 赞2025/9/21
Yad Vashem was part of the rationale for me to think they were sent to a small camp around Munich or Austria and not one of the huge death factories. Had they been sent to something like Mathhausen or Dachau, the chances are pretty good one of their names would have survived. The fact that my great-grandpa or my grandma never found anything as to their whereabouts and Yad Vashem has a ton of records makes me think they were sent to some small camp. I know there were tons of those and they would have had fewer records to destroy than one of the big camps. Those small camps were awful as well. I remember reading in The Buchenwald Report about their satellite camps and basically everyone who was sent to one of these was never seen again.
我之所以会觉得他们是被送到了慕尼黑或奥地利周边的小营地，而不是那些大型死亡工厂，部分原因就是因为“大屠杀纪念馆”（Yad Vashem）的记录。
如果他们是被送到了像毛特豪森或达豪那种地方，名字留存下来的几率其实挺高的。但事实是我太外公和我奶奶从来没查到过他们的下落，而“大屠杀纪念馆”那边又有海量的记录，这让我觉得他们肯定是被送到了某个名不见经传的小营地。我知道那种小营地多如牛毛，而且它们需要销毁的记录肯定比那些大营地少得多。
那些小营地也一样惨无人道。我记得读过《布痕瓦尔德报告》（The Buchenwald Report）里关于卫星营的内容，基本上被送去那儿的人就再也没能回来过。
Runic_reader45138 赞2025/9/22
Interesting. It looks like you and your family did a lot of research. Yes, the Nazis only ran awful camps. Not surprising. I've only heard of one time when non German officials were able to check on their deported citizens. When the Nazis sent Danish Jews to a camp, Danish Red Cross and Danish officials insisted on knowing about their welfare. Their actions likely saved Danish Jews sent to the camps late in the war.
有意思。看来你们一家子做了不少调查。确实，纳粹办的营地没一个是人待的地方，一点也不奇怪。我只听说过一次例外，就是非德国籍官员有权探视被驱逐的本国公民。当时纳粹把丹麦犹太人送进集中营时，丹麦红十字会和政府官员坚持要了解他们的生存状况。他们的介入很可能救下了那些在战争末期被送进营地的丹麦犹太人。
Ozzie_the_tiger_cat19 赞2025/9/22
I know the last correspondence with my great grandfather was that in 1936 and he was a US citizen by then. I'm not sure of the details of the trip, its been a long time since I spoke with my grandma about it. I dont know what he had to do to get there but he went and got some pictures.
我知道曾祖父最后一次联络是1936年，那时候他已经是美国公民了。至于那次旅行的具体细节我也说不太清，毕竟和我祖母聊起这事儿已经是好久以前了。我不知道他当时费了多大劲才成行，但他确实去了，还带回了一些照片。
259 赞2025/9/21
as a german its already rare to see a german flag but this is just ridiculous
作为德国人，平时能见到德国国旗就已经够稀罕的了，这搞得也太离谱了吧。
59 赞2025/9/22
Yep, they overdone it a bit...🫠😎
没错，他们确实搞得有点过了……🫠😎
30 赞2025/9/22
Reminds me of something else…
这让我联想到了别的什么事儿……
26 赞2025/9/22
As a Canadian and a WW2 geek, when ever I travel to the US the Amount of flag waving in some areas reminds me of Germany in the 30s.
身为加拿大人兼二战极客，我每次去美国旅游，看到某些地方那股铺天盖地的摇旗呐喊劲儿，总让我联想到30年代的德国。
54 赞2025/9/23
Thats what happens when you get a Nationalistic Dictatorship based around fascistism
这就是基于法西斯主义的民族主义独裁政权搞出来的名堂。
112 赞2025/9/21
People in these comments do realize this is not what every street looked like and this picture is clearly taken at some major government building, hence the many flags.
评论区的朋友们，你们不会真觉得当时的每条大街都长这样吧？这照片明显是在某个大型政府建筑拍的，所以才有这么多旗子。
35 赞2025/9/21
I think you'll ruin the circle jerk with those sorts of logical comments!
你发表这种逻辑在线的评论，怕不是要破坏大家“自嗨”的节奏啊！
67 赞2025/9/21
The overpopulation of flags of any country and of any type is the main symptom that fascism is already there. They don't just have to be swastikas
不管是哪个国家，也不管是什么旗，旗帜泛滥就是法西斯主义已经扎根的主要症状。不一定非得是万字旗才算。
21 赞2025/9/23
Trevor Noah remarked this about the US; in case you forgot where you are… Commenting it is expected to see at Government buildings but the fact you can find them on so many public properties is strange. Also, as bathing suits, t shirts, stickers, drink koozies, and all made in China…
特雷弗·诺亚（Trevor Noah）曾就美国的情况评价过：生怕你忘了自己身处何方……
32 赞2025/9/23
A lot of people in Poland fly the national flag out of patriotism. There's a Polish coat of arms in every classroom, and a crucifix in most. I can truly feel the fascism here, it's absolutely terrifying! Im shivering in my room right now!
波兰很多人挂国旗纯粹是出于爱国。每间教室都有波兰国徽，大多数教室还有十字架。我在这儿简直能感受到扑面而来的“法西斯气息”，太吓人了！我现在在屋里瑟瑟发抖呢！
52 赞2025/9/21
At no point did society as a whole look at this shit and think "maybe this is problematic".
当时的社会整体竟然没一个人停下来琢磨一下这破事儿，心想“这玩意儿是不是有点问题”。
62 赞2025/9/21
They did.
They got them first.
The first victims of the camps were non-Jewish Germans who tried to speak up against anti-Jewish laws
他们确实这么干过。
他们最先抓的就是这些人。
集中营的第一批受害者其实是那些试图站出来反对反犹法律的非犹太裔德国人。
35 赞2025/9/22
Visited Munich last year and my dad and I went to Dachau. You learn that the first step was for them to remove ANYBODY that could oppose their power, after that it ramped up to the others.
去年去慕尼黑旅游，我和我爸参观了达豪集中营。你通过学习就会明白，他们的第一步就是清洗掉所有可能反抗他们权力的人，搞定这些后，才开始变本加厉地迫害其他人。
18 赞2025/9/22
Huh, eerily similar to goings-on somewhere else on the globe right now. Can't quite put my finger in it though...
呵，这和地球上某处正在发生的事情诡异地相似。虽然我一时半会儿也说不出具体哪儿不对劲……
17 赞2025/9/22
I think that there is a Kimmel of truth in what you are saying there. Edit: of course, this is not EXACTLY the same. As Mark Twain supposedly said "History doesn't repeat itself; but it does rhyme."
我觉得你说的这番话里多少带点“基梅尔式”的真相（注：此处玩了Kimmel/kernel的双关梗，指代某种核心真相）。
21 赞2025/9/22
2 words. Brainwashed and Desperate. (Desperate for a government to actually be for the people and not outside relations) Germany was in one hell of state before Hitler came along. Literally the only good thing he did is support his people until well we know the rest
就两个词：洗脑，绝望。（绝望于一个真正为民做主而非搞外交关系的政府）。希特勒上台前，德国那叫一个惨。说实话，他唯一干过的人事儿就是支持他的人民，直到……嗯，后面的事儿大家都知道了。
11 赞2025/9/22
Trumps Ideal America
特朗普理想中的美国。
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8 赞2025/9/23
In before someone moronically says "AmERiCA 2025" oh wait, I'm too late.
在某个傻缺说出“2025年的美国”之前先占个楼……哦等等，我来晚了。
7 赞2025/9/22
Looks clean and tidy. No phones... just people enjoying the moment.
看着既干净又整洁。
7 赞2025/9/22
It could be France, London or Canada 2025 except with Palestine flags
这也可能是2025年的法国、伦敦或者加拿大，只不过得加上巴勒斯坦的旗帜。
6 赞2025/9/22
I'm from the Netherlands, and having many flags of your home country is something that's usually only done by racists. I went to America and they had the American flag everywhere. Freaked me TF out
我来自荷兰，在我们那儿，要是谁家里挂满国旗，通常只有种族主义者才会干这种事。
后来我去了一趟美国，发现到处都是美国国旗。
当时简直把我给吓坏了。
5 赞2025/9/22
It started with the promise of safe and clean streets and cities, followed by the development of paramilitary into cities combined with deportations of “problematic” people, centralisation of the media…. Some people loved it.
一切都始于对“安全整洁街道和城市”的承诺，紧接着是准军事组织进入城市，再配合对“问题人物”的驱逐，以及媒体的集权化……有些人对此倒是挺受用的。
5 赞2025/9/22
Not enough flags
旗子还不够多。
3 赞2025/9/21
The original flag wankers.
玩旗子的鼻祖。
3 赞2025/9/22
Did they wear a suit and say thank you?
他们是不是还得穿西装、说谢谢？
3 赞2025/9/22
Looks beautiful and clean
看着挺美，挺干净的。
2 赞2025/9/23
Is that Munich?
那是慕尼黑吗？
2 赞2025/9/21
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2 赞2025/9/22
Hmmm, I feel like they missed some spots to hang more flags.
嗯……我觉得他们还有好几个地方没挂上旗子，漏了。
2 赞2025/9/22
Or Washington DC 2025
或者说是2025年的华盛顿特区。
2 赞2025/9/23
Wrongly labelled? Should be USA in 2026?
标错了吧？这不该是2026年的美国吗？
2 赞2025/9/21
America in 2026..
2026年的美国……
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2 赞2025/9/22
Is it just me, or do all the swastikas make it look like the city has literally been taken over by Nazis
是我一个人这么觉得吗？这些万字旗看着就像这城市真被纳粹接管了一样。
2 赞2025/9/23
It looks so beautiful
这看起来太美了。