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1877 年英国统治下的印度马德拉斯饥荒期间,一名男子保护家人免受食人者的侵害。

1877 年英国统治下的印度马德拉斯饥荒期间,一名男子保护家人免受食人者的侵害。

1877 年英国统治下的印度马德拉斯饥荒期间,一名男子保护家人免受食人者的侵害。

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Those poor people.
那些可怜的人。
CarmynRamy719 赞2025/8/23
This is what we had to deal with, this is where we had to rebuild from, from artificial famines and religious tensions. And people out there can't handle when India is progressing despite all those flaws.
这是我们必须处理的问题,这是我们必须从人为饥荒和宗教紧张局势中重建的地方。当印度尽管存在这些缺陷但仍在进步时,人们却无法应对。
Wooden-Agency-2653249 赞2025/8/23
All famines are artificial. Famine occurs not through the absolute scarcity of food, but the inability to access it. Famine is caused by lack of preparedness, or lack of political will to import food, set up welfare schemes and so on. All famines are avoidable
所有的饥荒都是人为的。发生饥荒并不是因为食物绝对匮乏,而是因为无法获得食物。饥荒是由于缺乏准备或缺乏进口粮食、建立福利计划等的政治意愿造成的。所有饥荒都是可以避免的
BackToGuac288 赞2025/8/23
Historically I’d say this isn’t true; perhaps one could argue that point today with how connected the world is but historically if the famine was caused by a natural disaste crop harvests they wouldn’t have been avoidable
从历史上看,我会说这不是真的。也许有人会在今天争论这一点,因为世界是多么紧密相连,但从历史上看,如果饥荒是由自然灾害/受感染的农作物收成引起的,那么饥荒就无法避免
DiCeStrikEd111 赞2025/8/23
Ireland was the biggest experter of live stock and grains during its famine….. also under British rule The famine in native America - the almost extinction of the buffalo …
爱尔兰在饥荒期间是最大的牲畜和谷物专家......也在英国统治下 美洲原住民的饥荒——水牛几乎灭绝……
Red_Laughing_Man62 赞2025/8/23
You realise you're on the side that's arguing that _all_ famines are always caused by poor distribution of food or political action, and are never actually caused by an absolute lack of food. It would be different if you were arguing famines are often caused by these things - which is probably the case, especially in the past few centuries as our ability to transport food has very much improved. But there have been famines in history that were objectively caused by poor harvests and had nothing too do with political action or distribution of food. e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
你意识到你站在主张所有饥荒总是由食物分配不善或政治行动引起的一方,而实际上从来不是由绝对缺乏食物引起的。 如果你认为饥荒往往是由这些事情引起的,情况就会有所不同——情况可能确实如此,尤其是在过去的几个世纪里,因为我们运输粮食的能力已经大大提高。 但历史上也曾出现过饥荒,这些饥荒客观上是由于收成不佳造成的,与政治行动或粮食分配无关。 例如https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
chasingeli28 赞2025/8/23
Part of modernity and globalization is that in the PRESENT era (which began in the nineteenth century) most famines are artificial. Starving people is a very good way to get rid of them or make them participate in your death cult.
现代性和全球化的一部分是,在当今时代(始于十九世纪),大多数饥荒都是人为的。 让人们挨饿是摆脱他们或让他们参与你的死亡崇拜的一个很好的方法。
Jozzylecter49 赞2025/8/23
History is a bit longer than 150 years.
历史比150年稍长一些。
605_phorte43 赞2025/8/23
That’s just not true. In this particular case it is, because the British exported food during a food crisis, but historically famines and other crisis were indeed due to scarcity.
那不是真的。在这个特殊情况下确实如此,因为英国在粮食危机期间出口粮食,但历史上的饥荒和其他危机确实是由于稀缺造成的。
Devmoi72 赞2025/8/23
My exact thought. It’s horrible, but I was literally thinking how are they still alive given their appearances. Ugh.
我的确切想法。这太可怕了,但我真的在想,鉴于他们的外表,他们怎么还活着。啊。
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Hooker_with_a_weenis428 赞2025/8/23
Literally going on in multiple places on earth today.
今天,地球上多个地方都在发生这样的事情。
WakaFlockaFlav177 赞2025/8/23
Don't worry. He is praying it away.
不用担心。他正在祈祷它消失。
Hooker_with_a_weenis107 赞2025/8/23
Ironic seeing that religion is what’s causing this shit.
讽刺的是,宗教才是造成这种情况的原因。
TheTenaciousG53 赞2025/8/23
Just gotta pray harder, maybe send over some thoughts
只是要更加努力地祈祷,也许传达一些想法
Phidwig24 赞2025/8/23
Might as well not pray then….!!?? Like seriously wtf are the majority of people who are also suffering immensely supposed to do about it? Believe in god or not, theres evidence that we live in a collective field where our individual thoughts and feelings influence the larger whole. Why poo poo on anyone offering up thoughts of healing for the suffering in the world?
那还不如不祈祷……!!?说真的,大多数同样遭受巨大痛苦的人应该对此做些什么吗? 无论是否相信上帝,有证据表明我们生活在一个集体领域,我们的个人思想和感受影响着更大的整体。为什么要对那些为世界上的苦难提供治愈想法的人大便呢?
Yaasss_Queef32 赞2025/8/23
It was literally declared in Gaza today.
今天在加沙确实宣布了这一消息。
AlternativePea620380 赞2025/8/23
Forward your comment to Netanyahu
将您的评论转发给内塔尼亚胡
kansai2kansas39 赞2025/8/23
And Kim Jong un
还有金正恩
soelsome33 赞2025/8/23
How out of touch are you that you don't know this very minute there are people suffering this level of starvation?
你是多么脱离现实,竟然不知道现在还有人在遭受这种程度的饥饿?
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Stunning-Rock353981 赞2025/8/23
Nah these people were beyond starving. I imagine hunger doesn’t even register at that point as malnourishment would make you feel like you are dying anyway
不,这些人已经挨饿了。我想那时甚至不会感到饥饿,因为营养不良会让你感觉自己快要死了
Ok-Pomegranate85815 赞2025/8/23
Its true.... ... I wonder if they might ever be the same again .. especially the children who are still developing...
这是真的……我想知道他们是否会再次一样……尤其是那些仍在发育的孩子们……
9mackenzie44 赞2025/8/23
The average North Korean is 5” shorter than the average South Korean. Yes, children going through growing periods under starvation conditions absolutely have permanent changes. As for these people, I highly doubt they survived unfortunately. This level of starvation you can’t just eat food again, you need IV therapy and intensive treatment, they are likely suffering multi-organ failure in this pic.
朝鲜人的平均身高比韩国人的平均身高矮 5 英寸。是的,在饥饿条件下经历生长期的孩子绝对会发生永久性的变化。 至于这些人,我非常怀疑他们是否不幸幸存。这种程度的饥饿你不能再吃东西了,你需要静脉注射和强化治疗,他们很可能在这张照片中遭受多器官衰竭。
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Good reminder to broaden our perspective as well when we see things like “the world is worse than it’s ever been before” type content online. Edit: so many of yall *wanting* today to be worse than the past…step back and really honestly reflect where that might come from or who might be benefiting from you feeling that way. Let’s not dishonor the past or the present by being so flippant with the truth. Fight the cynicism.
当我们在网上看到“世界比以往任何时候都更糟糕”这样的内容时,这也是一个很好的提醒,要拓宽我们的视野。 编辑:你们很多人“希望”今天比过去更糟糕……退后一步,真正诚实地反思这可能来自哪里,或者谁可能会从你的这种感觉中受益。我们不要对事实如此轻率,从而羞辱过去或现在。与愤世嫉俗作斗争。
Ok_Narwhal_9200188 赞2025/8/23
Famine is still happening today.
时至今日,饥荒仍在发生。
BugAdministrative683173 赞2025/8/23
The UN just declared it today in Gaza.
联合国今天刚刚在加沙宣布了这一消息。
Tango00090154 赞2025/8/23
And Israel has just deployed another set of ads on YouTube stating that it’s fake and Palestinians are eating well. Fuck this world and fuck Israel
以色列刚刚在 YouTube 上投放了另一组广告,声称这是假的,巴勒斯坦人吃得很好。他妈的这个世界,他妈的以色列
BugAdministrative68330 赞2025/8/23
Why do Google even allow that? Surely the platform on which it's being advertised have to vet what is being pushed out... so they just take the money and don't care about any of it? Do they ever take a moral stance on anything? I haven't seen the ads, but if it's true then Google are complicit in this whole terrible scenario.
为什么谷歌甚至允许这样做?当然,发布广告的平台必须审查所推出的内容……所以他们只是拿了钱而不关心任何事情?他们对任何事情都采取过道德立场吗? 我还没有看到这些广告,但如果这是真的,那么谷歌就是这整个可怕场景的同谋。
TessaThompsonBurger55 赞2025/8/23
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支付狂热杂耍复杂的胖乎乎的有文化的钟声逮捕考虑丰富 *这篇文章已被大规模删除并使用[Redact](https://redact.dev/home)匿名化*
manicpossumdreamgirl33 赞2025/8/23
they specifically removed the "do no evil" part of their mission statement
他们特别删除了使命宣言中“不作恶”的部分
CinderR3bel22 赞2025/8/23
They sure seem to care when you tubers use clips for a second more than they're allowed. They demonatize them so fast🙄
当你的块茎使用剪辑超过允许的时间时,他们似乎确实很关心。他们如此迅速地妖魔化他们🙄
ItsGonnaBeOkayish22 赞2025/8/23
Yes I try to remind myself of this. Most people throughout history lived underneath kings or autocrats, in bad conditions. But what tips it for me is the impending environmental disaster, and the technology we've never had before. That's what makes this time different
是的,我试着提醒自己这一点。历史上大多数人都生活在国王或独裁者统治下,条件恶劣。但给我提示的是即将发生的环境灾难,以及我们以前从未拥有过的技术。这就是这次的不同之处
Circusonfire691,175 赞2025/8/23
just incredible how resilient our bodies are actually. You can become skin and bones and still not die..
我们的身体实际上有多么强大的弹性,真是令人难以置信。你可以变成皮包骨,但仍然不会死。
ElaborateEffect749 赞2025/8/23
I remember reading about starvation, and if I remember correctly this level of starvation is fatal regardless of future food supply unfortunately.
我记得读过有关饥饿的文章,如果我没记错的话,不幸的是,无论未来的食物供应如何,这种程度的饥饿都是致命的。
moby561538 赞2025/8/23
It’s not necessarily fatal but will require medical attention, at this point just giving them food isn’t enough.
这不一定是致命的,但需要医疗护理,此时仅仅给他们食物是不够的。
AngletonSpareHead549 赞2025/8/23
Given them even plain rice will likely kill them. They need very specific infusions of electrolytes to prevent heart attack due to electrolyte imbalance, and a careful reintroduction of nutrition in a certain order. They may even be too far gone and need supportive care and opiates to help them pass away without pain. “Refeeding syndrome,” aka unintentional killing with kindness.
考虑到它们,即使是普通的米饭也可能会杀死它们。他们需要非常具体的电解质输注,以防止由于电解质不平衡而导致的心脏病发作,并按一定顺序仔细地重新引入营养。 他们甚至可能已经病入膏肓,需要支持性护理和阿片类药物来帮助他们在没有痛苦的情况下去世。 “再喂养综合症”,又名无意识的善意杀戮。
love_pollution325 赞2025/8/23
Makes me think of the stories of WW2 soldiers unintentionally killing concentration camp survivors by giving them food upon liberation.
让我想起二战士兵解放后给集中营幸存者提供食物而无意中杀害他们的故事。
RogueSlytherin262 赞2025/8/23
It’s called “refeeding syndrome” and is very deadly. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we will see this in Gaza if aid ever safely arrives.
它被称为“再喂养综合症”并且非常致命。不幸的是,我有一种感觉,如果援助安全抵达,我们将会在加沙看到这种情况。
Ziggy_Starcrust91 赞2025/8/23
Yeah, unless that aid is a squad of doctors and special food, people are going to die of refeeding syndrome. Like I'm aware of what it is, but I couldn't tell you what's safe to eat. All a layperson could do is Google it, give small portions, and hope for the best. And imagine trying to self-manage it. You're starving but you know you can't eat much at all or you'll die.
是的,除非援助是一队医生和特殊食物,否则人们将会死于再进食综合症。 好像我知道它是什么,但我无法告诉你什么是安全的。外行人所能做的就是谷歌搜索,给一小部分,并希望得到最好的结果。想象一下尝试自我管理它。你很饿,但你知道你根本不能吃太多,否则你就会死。
algbop92 赞2025/8/23
Aid agencies are very knowledgeable about refeeding syndrome. They use specially crafted therapeutic food (peanut paste etc) to help bring people back to good health before they have normal food like rice etc. So it’s not dependent on doctors being there to help people survive.
援助机构对再喂养综合症非常了解。他们使用特制的治疗食品(花生酱等)来帮助人们在吃米饭等正常食物之前恢复健康。因此,这并不依赖于医生来帮助人们生存。
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One of the aid agencies operating in Gaza, I believe WFK, has been advertising their focus on nutritional pastes like this as a way of showing how effective donating to them currently is.
我相信 WFK 是在加沙开展业务的援助机构之一,一直在宣传他们对此类营养糊的关注,以此来展示目前向他们捐赠的效果如何。
Silver-Appointment7716 赞2025/8/24
I was going to say thats wht the peanut paste tubes they give out in Africa are for. Help the body absorb nutrients slowly.
我想说这就是他们在非洲发放的花生酱管的用途。帮助身体慢慢吸收营养。
BackToGuac32 赞2025/8/23
I want to preface this point by making it categorically clear that I am in no way comparing fasting with Famine, but I can speak a little on refeed syndrome. I do extended fasting for health benefits. I do 1 week fast once every 3 months and a 2 week fast once a year; anything post 5 days you start to creep into the “risk” zone for refeed syndrome. The rule of thumb is the refeed period should be half the fasting time (for example; if these people have been starving for 6 months, the refeed period would be 3 months) Refeed diet is principally the same concept regardless of length of fast: -first is electrolytes, at this level of starvation you’d then add in liquid nutrients (first coconut water, then likely something like Nourishment) and bone broth. Due to dehydration they’d need IVs as well. -Second is non cruciferous veggies -Third is protein -Fourth is dairy -Finally complex carbs before back to normal eating All of this is done in stages and you should try to eat tiny quantities regularly to “wake up” your digestive system instead of eating a big meal; it’s very important not to rush and to listen to your body These people with medical intervention could likely be saved but the reality of that having occurred seems unbelievably slim
我想在序言中明确表示,我绝不会将禁食与饥荒进行比较,但我可以谈谈再进食综合症。 我延长禁食时间是为了健康。我每 3 个月禁食 1 周,每年禁食 2 周; 5 天后,您就会开始进入再进食综合症的“风险”区。经验法则是,再进食期应为禁食时间的一半(例如;如果这些人已经挨饿了 6 个月,则再进食期将为 3 个月) 无论禁食时间长短,重新喂养饮食原则上都是相同的概念: -首先是电解质,在这种饥饿程度下,你需要添加液体营养素(首先是椰子水,然后可能是营养品)和骨头汤。由于脱水,他们也需要静脉注射。 -第二是非十字花科蔬菜 -第三是蛋白质 -第四是乳制品 -在恢复正常饮食之前最后摄入复合碳水化合物 所有这些都是分阶段完成的,你应该尝试定期吃少量的食物来“唤醒”你的消化系统,而不是吃一顿大餐;不要着急,倾听身体的声音,这一点非常重要 这些接受医疗干预的人可能会获救,但这种情况发生的现实似乎令人难以置信
AFoolishSeeker24 赞2025/8/23
How the fuck does someone fast for even a couple days? I seriously feel like I am going to die if I go 24hrs. Does it really get easier past a certain point? It seems so incomprehensible to go 2 weeks without food
怎么会有人禁食几天?我真的觉得如果我24小时都这样我就会死。 过了某个点真的会变得更容易吗? 两周不吃饭似乎令人难以理解
manebushin16 赞2025/8/23
If I am not mistaken, the hunger gets worse and worse the first 3 days, then your body stops alarming you too much because it would be crippling compounding the feeling of hunger with the physical symtoms of lack of nutrition. So you basically already know you are hungry because you are feeling the symtoms, instead of needing additional warning of hunger.
如果我没记错的话,前三天饥饿感会越来越严重,然后你的身体就不会再过多地向你发出警报,因为饥饿感与缺乏营养的身体症状混合在一起会导致严重的后果。 因此,您基本上已经知道自己饿了,因为您感觉到了症状,而不需要额外的饥饿警告。
TheDillinger8836 赞2025/8/23
It’s ironic that a people who were the victims of a genocide would then inflict that same fate on others. I know it’s not that simple, there’s a lot of nuance involved in the current conflict between Israel and Palestine but when boiled down, it’s very similar.
具有讽刺意味的是,一个种族灭绝受害者的民族也会给其他人带来同样的命运。 我知道事情没那么简单,当前以色列和巴勒斯坦之间的冲突涉及很多细微差别,但归根结底,它非常相似。
Stormfly15 赞2025/8/23
> It’s ironic that a people who were the victims of a genocide would then inflict that same fate on others. Most bullies were once bullied. Many holocaust survivors became incredibly racist. It's because, if you're judged for being part of a "group", people often stop trusting *anyone* that's not part of that group. You'll see it often online with racism and sexism caused by (and they'll also attempt to justify it using) past experiences. The greatest irony is that 80 years ago, WW2 ended and the US helped fight the fascists and stopped their genocide and now the US are becoming the Fascists and the genocided group is causing their own genocide. Europe went from a continent at war to possibly the strongest alliance on earth, and Germany and Japan went from literally fascism to being some of the most progressive countries in certain areas.
> 具有讽刺意味的是,一个种族灭绝受害者的民族也会给其他人带来同样的命运。 大多数欺凌者都曾经被欺负过。许多大屠杀幸存者变得极其种族主义。 这是因为,如果你被评判为“群体”的一部分,人们通常会不再信任不属于该群体的“任何人”。你会经常在网上看到由过去的经历引起的种族主义和性别歧视(他们也会试图用过去的经历来证明其合理性)。 最大的讽刺是,80年前,二战结束,美国帮助打击法西斯并制止了他们的种族灭绝,而现在美国却变成了法西斯,而种族灭绝集团正在制造自己的种族灭绝。 欧洲从一个战争大陆变成了可能是地球上最强大的联盟,德国和日本从字面上的法西斯主义变成了某些领域最进步的国家。
QueenDoc39 赞2025/8/23
This is what killed my mother. She was anorexic for a good while, finally placed in a hospital and just handed her a plate of food - it ended up triggering a heart attack
这就是杀死我母亲的原因。她厌食症好一阵子,最后被送进医院,只是递给她一盘食物,结果引发了心脏病
shannyloupoo30 赞2025/8/23
My daughter is currently going through refeeding syndrome in an eating disorder clinic. After being in the program for about a week her liver levels went from 29 to 70 and 19 to 180. I have no idea what the numbers mean just that they aren’t good and if they weren’t monitored and lowered they would cause long term damage to her liver.
我的女儿目前正在饮食失调诊所经历再喂养综合症。参加该计划大约一周后,她的肝脏水平从 29 升至 70,再从 19 升至 180。我不知道这些数字意味着什么,只是这些数字不好,如果不进行监测和降低,会对她的肝脏造成长期损害。
tu-BROOKE-ulosis28 赞2025/8/23
I am not a doctor. I do not know ED numbers. I am saying this so that you know, I don’t know what I am talking about. But, that being said, I do know liver numbers based on alcoholism, and those numbers I assume are AST and ALT readings? If so, at least for an alcoholic (again I have no idea about eat disorders), those numbers are not be all end all horrible. Those are the kind of numbers where doctors say “hey yo, not cool, stop drinking or it’ll be a problem in the future. Stop now.” Those aren’t “go to the emergency room now” numbers. The liver has an incredible capacity to heal. I sincerely hope the best for your daughter.
我不是医生。我不知道 ED 号码。我这么说是为了让你知道,我不知道我在说什么。但是,话虽这么说,我确实知道基于酗酒的肝脏数据,而我认为这些数字是 AST 和 ALT 读数?如果是这样,至少对于一个酗酒者来说(我再次对饮食失调一无所知),这些数字并不完全可怕。对于这样的数字,医生会说“嘿,这不酷,停止饮酒,否则将来会出现问题。现在就停止。”这些不是“现在去急诊室”的数字。肝脏具有令人难以置信的治愈能力。我真诚地希望你的女儿一切顺利。
dm_me_kittens17 赞2025/8/24
My partner found a severely dehydrated and malounourished kitten on the side of the road. When he brought him home, I was so scared to feed him too much. He had his baby teeth in, so I ground up the adult kibble we had and filled it with water and added a little bit of those kitty gogurts. I only fed him a little and he ate it all while purring. Not too long after we all settled down my partner came running downstairs saying there was something wrong. I ran upstairs and found the kitten CRYING. He had been so dehydrated that he had a fecal impaction. I strapped on some gloves and had to digitally remove the poop. They were like rocks. He made it through the night and after a few days of feeding him essentially baby food, I increased the amount and we went to harder foods. The little gremlin is four months old now and an absolute ankle terrorist. He's going to his forever home soon, and I love him so much. *
我的伙伴在路边发现了一只严重脱水且营养不良的小猫。当他带他回家时,我很害怕给他吃太多。他长出了乳牙,所以我把我们吃的成人粗粮磨碎,装满水,然后加了一点小猫高古尔。我只给他喂了一点,他就一边咕噜咕噜地吃一边吃。我们都安顿下来后不久,我的搭档跑下楼说出了点问题。我跑上楼,发现小猫在哭。他脱水严重,导致粪便嵌塞。我戴上手套,不得不用数字技术清除粪便。他们就像岩石一样。 他熬过了整个晚上,几天后,我基本上给他喂了婴儿食品,我增加了用量,我们开始吃较硬的食物。 这个小妖怪现在四个月大了,是一个绝对的脚踝恐怖分子。他很快就要回到他永远的家了,我非常爱他。 *
FriendshipCute152427 赞2025/8/23
I remember in 1000 ways to die a guy starved himself so he could fit through the bars and escape prison, He made it home and they threw a big celebratory feast, He ate too much and his stomach ruptured and he died or some such.
我记得有1000种死法,一个人挨饿,这样他就可以穿过铁栏并逃出监狱,他回到家,他们举办了一场盛大的庆祝宴会,他吃得太多,胃破裂了,然后他就死了,或者类似的事情。
SodiumEnjoyer78 赞2025/8/23
There's no way they don't die or have serious medical complications for the rest of their lives even if they were put in a hospital immediately after this photo
即使他们在拍完这张照片后立即被送往医院,他们的余生也不可能不死或出现严重的医疗并发症
moby56140 赞2025/8/23
Agreed, they need immediate medical attention, my point is just that they aren’t 100% dead.
同意,他们需要立即就医,我的观点是他们并没有 100% 死亡。
killit72 赞2025/8/23
Photo's from 1877. They're 100% dead.
1877 年的照片。 他们100%死了。
MizStazya18 赞2025/8/23
Fuck you for making me laugh at this post
他妈的你让我笑这个帖子
PUBGM_MightyFine83 赞2025/8/23
This makes fasting really easy when you know it's not going to kill you to wait to eat even if it's unpleasant.
当你知道等待进食不会杀死你,即使它不愉快时,这会让禁食变得非常容易。
Ok-Pomegranate85829 赞2025/8/23
I guess... the hunger goes away after a while?
我想……饥饿感会在一段时间后消失吗?
PUBGM_MightyFine36 赞2025/8/23
Yep. Nausea and fatigue aren't fun if you go too long in my experience
是的。根据我的经验,如果时间太长,恶心和疲劳就不好玩了
ElaborateEffect39 赞2025/8/23
After intermittent fasting on and off a few time over the years, I don't get hungry anymore. My stomach will rumble, but I don't feel any actual discomfort. I think we've been conditioned to feel any hunger is bad
多年来断断续续地断断续续地禁食几次后,我不再感到饥饿了。我的肚子会咕咕叫,但我并没有感到任何实际的不适。 我认为我们已经习惯于感觉任何饥饿都是不好的
Nernoxx18 赞2025/8/23
I get hungry pretty quick, it moved from discomfort to mild pain, and then nausea and headache. My whole life, regardless of my weight, anytime I'm trying to watch what I eat or restrict my intake. I don't need to stuff my face with cake, but I do have to eat to prevent the nausea and headache, and it's irritating because I feel like intermittent fasting would be great (or just eating two meals a day) but I can't seem to condition myself without it interfering in my functioning.
我很快就感到饥饿,从不适到轻微疼痛,然后是恶心和头痛。 我一生中,无论我的体重如何,任何时候我都在努力控制自己的饮食或限制摄入量。 我不需要在脸上塞满蛋糕,但我必须吃东西来防止恶心和头痛,这很令人恼火,因为我觉得间歇性禁食会很好(或者每天吃两顿饭),但我似乎无法在不干扰我功能的情况下调节自己。
SnooCupcakes576138 赞2025/8/23
It's starts in babyhood especially if they're bottle fed. Parents think the only response to an uncomfortable baby is to feed them a bottle. The baby isn't necessarily hungry but sucking is soothing. Eventually, this repeated process either confuses the baby or teaches them to ignore their body. It is exacerbated when parents *make* kids finish dinner. You're teaching your children that they're supposed to eat at a specific time or whenever they're upset whether they're hungry or not. This leads to all kinds of digestive problems down the road including obesity.
它从婴儿时期就开始了,特别是如果他们是奶瓶喂养的。父母认为,对宝宝不舒服的唯一反应就是给他们喂奶瓶。宝宝不一定饿,但吸吮可以安抚情绪。最终,这个重复的过程要么让婴儿感到困惑,要么教会他们忽视自己的身体。当父母“让”孩子吃完晚饭时,情况会更加严重。你正在教你的孩子,他们应该在特定的时间或在他们不高兴的时候吃东西,无论他们是否饿了。这会导致各种消化问题,包括肥胖。
latinaglasses116 赞2025/8/23
Sadly descendants today are still living with the impact of this famine in their DNA, affecting how their bodies store fat and leading to high rates of diabetes in India and South Asia. Edit: as others have informed me it’s really the epigenome and not the DNA sequence, but love that Reddit can teach me new things like this.
可悲的是,今天的后代在他们的 DNA 中仍然受到这场饥荒的影响,影响了他们的身体储存脂肪的方式,并导致印度和南亚的糖尿病发病率很高。 编辑:正如其他人告诉我的那样,这实际上是表观基因组,而不是 DNA 序列,但我喜欢 Reddit 可以教我这样的新东西。
MusaRilban16 赞2025/8/23
Can you provide a source for that? How can a single famine affect the DNA so significantly like you've described? As a complete layman, everything I've learnt about DNA, inherited traits and the environmental impact on both of them goes against what you've just said. And if true, how is it that through the same mechanisms the body doesn't then just adapt to the new environmental state and change once again? Edit: I learned something new, thanks! It doesn't change your DNA sequence but it does affect how genes are expressed, which can cause a variety of issues if the environmental pressures change (famine -> abundance for e.g).
你能提供一个来源吗?一次饥荒如何能够像您所描述的那样对 DNA 产生如此显着的影响?作为一个完全的门外汉,我所了解到的关于DNA、遗传特征以及环境对它们两者的影响的一切都与你刚才所说的相反。 如果这是真的,那么为什么通过相同的机制,身体不会适应新的环境状态并再次发生变化呢? 编辑:我学到了新东西,谢谢!它不会改变您的 DNA 序列,但会影响基因的表达方式,如果环境压力发生变化(例如饥荒 -> 丰富),可能会导致各种问题。
QuestioningHuman_api57 赞2025/8/23
It’s not about DNA, it’s about the epigenome, which (in layperson terms) determines your body’s chemical output. Famine and other extreme stressors do significantly alter a person’s epigenome and it’s been extensively studied and proven that this is heritable. You should be able to find many reputable sources and studies about this with a google search using this information.
这与 DNA 无关,而是与表观基因组有关,表观基因组(用外行人的话来说)决定了您身体的化学物质输出。饥荒和其他极端压力确实会显着改变一个人的表观基因组,并且经过广泛研究并证明这是可遗传的。 您应该能够使用此信息通过谷歌搜索找到许多有信誉的来源和研究。
Schnicklefritz98727 赞2025/8/23
Many Irish descendants in America suffer from forms of anemia, a genetic result of widespread famine or starvation. This is just one example.
美国的许多爱尔兰后裔都患有贫血症,这是大范围饥荒或饥饿的遗传结果。这只是一个例子。
kn1ght-of-heart22 赞2025/8/23
I don't know much about this particular situation, but something similar happened with Holocaust victims. Trauma like this changes your DNA. It has to do with epigenetics, from what I understand.
我对这种特殊情况了解不多,但类似的事情也发生在大屠杀受害者身上。像这样的创伤会改变你的 DNA。据我了解,这与表观遗传学有关。
theGreat-Marzipan21 赞2025/8/23
It affects Cortisol. My grandparents and parents survived famines and if I'm stressed I get fat. I had huge problems during the last decade and even if I walk 10km a day every day minimum and never eat too much (and no sodas or processed food), I just can't lose weight if I'm stressed. My GP tested everything my cholesterol and stuff everything is perfect BUT my cortisol is very very high. My sibling used to do 3hours of cardio everyday just to avoid being obese but he was still very chubby (he has anxiety since little). You can research articles using "famine" and "epigenetic".
它会影响皮质醇。我的祖父母和父母在饥荒中幸存下来,如果我有压力,我就会发胖。在过去的十年里,我遇到了巨大的问题,即使我每天至少步行 10 公里并且从不吃太多(并且不喝苏打水或加工食品),如果我有压力,我也无法减肥。 我的全科医生测试了我的胆固醇和一切都很完美,但我的皮质醇非常非常高。我的兄弟曾经每天做3小时的有氧运动只是为了避免肥胖,但他仍然很胖(他从小就有焦虑症)。 您可以使用“饥荒”和“表观遗传”来研究文章。
drunktextUR_x31 赞2025/8/23
It’s well documented in the literature that famine impacts epigenetics. Meaning that certain genes are turned on and off under certain conditions and those genes are subsequently passed on to future generation. I forget exactly when, but there was a Dutch famine and the children born to pregnant mothers during that time had higher instances of mental health issues when compared to pregnant mothers that didn’t experience the famine. Additionally, thing like telomere length at the ends of DNA strands are also affected.
文献中有充分记载,饥荒会影响表观遗传学。这意味着某些基因在某些条件下被打开和关闭,并且这些基因随后被传递给下一代。我忘了具体是什么时候,但荷兰发生了一场饥荒,与没有经历过饥荒的怀孕母亲相比,在那段时间怀孕母亲所生的孩子出现心理健康问题的情况更高。此外,DNA 链末端的端粒长度等也会受到影响。
AutisticBonobo414 赞2025/8/23
[**https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great\_Famine\_of\_1876%E2%80%931878**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1876%E2%80%931878) 5.6 to 9.6 million fatalities. One of the many famines under British Rule, the last being the Bengal famine in the 1940s. A short video covering the famine 👇 [**https://youtu.be/4IAYDWs3Wpc**](https://youtu.be/4IAYDWs3Wpc) Another image from that famine 👇 image
[**https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great\_Famine\_of\_1876%E2%80%931878**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1876%E2%80%931878) 5.6 至 960 万人死亡。 英国统治下发生的众多饥荒之一,最后一次是 20 世纪 40 年代的孟加拉饥荒。 一段讲述饥荒的短视频👇 [**https://youtu.be/4IAYDWs3Wpc**](https://youtu.be/4IAYDWs3Wpc) 那场饥荒的另一张照片👇 image
NyxHemera45193 赞2025/8/23
That breastfeeding baby still 😢 😭
那个还在吃奶的宝宝😢😱
ReserveDisastrous322121 赞2025/8/23
the baby may be sucking but I doubt any milk, is coming out
宝宝可能正在吸吮,但我怀疑是否有乳汁流出
Selkies_not_Sirens54 赞2025/8/23
I’m shocked she was able to birth a baby in that condition!
我很震惊她能在这种情况下生下孩子!
QuintoBlanco93 赞2025/8/23
She gave birth before she was in this state, and the child isn't the size it should be because of starvation.
她在这种状态之前就生下了孩子,而且因为饥饿,孩子也没有达到应有的大小。
IdKillForAGoodComa24 赞2025/8/23
At least for some comfort. The poor mother. The pain and guilt she must have felt.
至少是为了一些安慰。可怜的母亲。她一定感受到了痛苦和愧疚。
clawsoon143 赞2025/8/23
Late Victorian Holocausts is an eye-opening read. It's been a while since I read it, but the short version of the story that I remember was that in the first famine of the late 1800s, the British governor worked his ass off to minimize deaths - redistributing food, reducing exports, cancelling taxes. Hardly anybody died. He sent his report back to London, and they were furious. They wanted maximum extraction from India at all times, famine or no famine. They wanted people to die to get rid of "surplus population". They wanted maximum taxes, maximum exports, and minimal relief. So in the following famines, the governors followed London's direction and millions died.
《维多利亚时代晚期大屠杀》是一本令人大开眼界的读物。 我已经有一段时间没读过这本书了,但我记得这个故事的简短版本是,在 1800 年代末的第一次饥荒中,英国总督竭尽全力减少死亡——重新分配食物、减少出口、取消税收。 几乎没有人死。 他将报告发回伦敦,他们非常愤怒。 无论有没有饥荒,他们都希望在任何时候都能最大限度地从印度获取资源。 他们希望人们死去以摆脱“过剩人口”。 他们想要最大程度的税收、最大程度的出口和最小程度的救济。 因此,在接下来的饥荒中,州长们听从了伦敦的指示,导致数百万人死亡。
AlternativePea620384 赞2025/8/23
Same in Ireland. "The undeserving poor should be reduced in number"
在爱尔兰也一样。 “应该减少不值得的穷人的数量”
Cultural_Wish493319 赞2025/8/23
And on-liners wonder why us Irish lose our shit about famine and potato "jokes". The irish famine was too early for press photography, but those bengalese pictures are deeply disturbing.
网友们想知道为什么我们爱尔兰人对饥荒和土豆“笑话”失去了兴趣。 爱尔兰的饥荒对于新闻摄影来说还为时过早,但那些孟加拉的照片却令人深感不安。
Turbulent-Remote286622 赞2025/8/23
Horror show. Capitalism has cost so many lives
恐怖表演。资本主义夺走了许多人​​的生命
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evilReiko200 赞2025/8/23
Every modern famine is man made
每一次现代饥荒都是人为造成的
Magrathea_carride104 赞2025/8/23
yep: "Although rice and wheat production in the rest of India (which now included bonanzas of coarse rice from the recently conquered Irrawaddy delta) had been above average for the past three years, much of the surplus had been exported to England. **Londoners were in effect eating India's bread.** "It seems an anomaly," wrote a troubled observer, "that, with her famines on hand, India is able to supply food for other parts of the world."" \-Mike Davis, Late Victorian Holocausts To paraphrase Yogeshwar Shastri: if knowingly stealing food at gunpoint from the mouth of a starving man while he dies of hunger is not deliberate murder, then what is?
是的: “尽管印度其他地区的大米和小麦产量(其中包括来自最近被征服的伊洛瓦底江三角洲的粗米富矿)在过去三年中高于平均水平,但大部分盈余都出口到了英国。**伦敦人实际上吃的是印度的面包。**一位忧心忡忡的观察家写道:“这似乎是一种反常现象,在饥荒即将来临的情况下,印度却能够为世界其他地区提供粮食。” \-迈克·戴维斯,维多利亚时代晚期大屠杀 套用尤格什瓦尔·沙斯特里(Yogeshwar Shastri)的话说:如果在一个饥饿的人快要饿死的时候故意用枪指着他从他嘴里偷食物不是故意谋杀,那么什么才算呢?
Magrathea_carride16 赞2025/8/23
England increased its theft of India's grain during this time, and Brit Viceroy Lytton purposely and knowingly lowered daily rations of Indian labourers at gunpoint to starvation levels, despite Indian food surpluses. Brit colonists also forced Indian labourers to grow grain to be sent to England while they starved - forcing them to work 9 hours daily in extreme heat in exchange for starvation rations. At the same time, Lytton threw the most lavish celebratory feast in all of human history - for British Colonial Officers in India. The opulent feast lasted for a week, and cost an insane amount of money. Queen Victoria often complained of stomach pains from regularly eating massive, 6-course meals at this time. She attended this same series of feasts in India during this famine, which was thrown to celebrate her power over India during this period. Both Lytton and Queen Victoria were well aware that people were being forced to starve around them, by them.
在此期间,英国增加了对印度粮食的盗窃,英国总督利顿在枪口的威胁下故意将印度劳工的每日口粮降低到饥饿水平,尽管印度粮食过剩。 英国殖民者还强迫印度劳工在饥饿期间种植谷物,然后运往英国——迫使他们每天在酷暑中工作 9 小时,以换取饥饿口粮。 与此同时,利顿为驻印度的英国殖民军官举办了人类历史上最奢华的庆祝盛宴。 这场丰盛的盛宴持续了一周,耗资惊人。 维多利亚女王经常抱怨这个时候经常吃大量的六道菜的饭菜,导致胃痛。这场饥荒期间,她在印度参加了同一系列的盛宴,这是为了庆祝她在此期间对印度的统治。利顿和维多利亚女王都清楚地意识到,他们周围的人们被迫挨饿。
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u_r_succulent31 赞2025/8/23
Famine is always a violent act.
饥荒始终是一种暴力行为。
Mobile_Tumbleweed_60176 赞2025/8/23
Did this cause south asian's to be more prone to diabetes, heart disease,etc?
这是否导致南亚人更容易患糖尿病、心脏病等?
beyondocean133 赞2025/8/23
Many studies have shown to have that predisposition. Hence the skinny fat phenotype for diabetes instead of the fat phenotype elsewhere.
许多研究表明有这种倾向。因此,糖尿病的表型是瘦脂肪,而不是其他地方的脂肪表型。
TiredAF2049 赞2025/8/23
I'm an example of the skinny fat South Asian. 5'3", 102 lbs, but I can't zip up or close the buttons on some pants that are otherwise loose on me. Lots of diabetes in my family too.
我是瘦胖南亚人的一个例子。 5英尺3英寸,102磅,但我无法拉上或扣上一些裤子上的纽扣,否则这些裤子对我来说是宽松的。我家里也有很多糖尿病患者。
xoRomaCheena3129 赞2025/8/23
I met an Indian guy at my work who looks normal in size yet has diabetes. I didn’t know about this historical context so wonder if he has it because of this. It’s crazy and I’m sorry it’s even a reality.
我在工作中遇到了一个印度人,他看起来身材正常,但却患有糖尿病。我不知道这个历史背景,所以想知道他是否因此而拥有它。这太疯狂了,我很抱歉这甚至是现实。
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>Did this cause south asian's to be more prone to diabetes, heart disease,etc? Notoriously. India was made to go through 12 famines during British Raj. Diabetes and tight/small arteries are part of the genetics now. But hey, British got their spices they were looking for, I bet their food is really tasty now. 😐
>这是否导致南亚人更容易患糖尿病、心脏病等? 臭名昭著。 印度在英属统治期间经历了12次饥荒。 糖尿病和狭窄/小动脉现在已成为遗传的一部分。 但是嘿,英国人得到了他们想要的香料,我敢打赌他们的食物现在真的很美味。 😐
SonesChones50 赞2025/8/23
Yep. Generational trauma from a British-induced famine. Just like Ireland.
是的。英国引发的饥荒造成的世代创伤。就像爱尔兰一样。
Ok-Juice-542141 赞2025/8/23
This is fucking horrible But do you know what's even more fucking horrible? That it's still happening!!
这太他妈可怕了 但你知道更可怕的是什么吗? 原来这样的事情还在发生!!
Fat_Gravy300094 赞2025/8/23
What are the cannibals gonna do make broth?
食人者会做什么做肉汤?
JoJCeeC8841 赞2025/8/23
Fr. There’s literally no meat on these bones at all.
神父。这些骨头上根本没有肉。
BoysenberryAdvanced420 赞2025/8/23
You'd be surprised! You get a lot of nutritious bone marrow from cooked bones.
你会感到惊讶的!您可以从煮熟的骨头中获得大量有营养的骨髓。
Ok-Pomegranate85821 赞2025/8/23
Fat_gravy , i was wondering this myself, but I didn't want to be the first to ask it for some reason.
Fat_gravy,我自己也想知道这个问题,但出于某种原因我不想成为第一个问这个问题的人。
AstronomerNo380678 赞2025/8/23
In 1874, Sir Richard Temple prevented famine in Bengal by importing rice, for which he was criticised by the government. In Madras in 1877, in response, he exported food and established labour camps- policies known to have failed miserably in both India and Ireland. Millions died, and Temple received a baronetcy. This was deliberate.
1874年,理查德·坦普尔爵士通过进口大米防止了孟加拉的饥荒,他因此受到政府的批评。作为回应,1877 年他在马德拉斯出口粮食并建立了劳改营——众所周知,这些政策在印度和爱尔兰都惨遭失败。数百万人死亡,坦普尔获得男爵爵位。 这是故意的。
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NoBookkeeper686473 赞2025/8/23
And 9 times out 10, the British are involved
十有八九英国人参与其中
qDUDULUp29 赞2025/8/23
and 7 times out 10 of today's geopolitical mess traces back to British as well. Ex: sino-indian border dispute. The McMahon Line, drawn by British India in 1914 without China’s consent, and other colonial era boundary decisions left a legacy of contested borders.
当今的地缘政治混乱十分之七也可以追溯到英国。例如:中印边界争端。英属印度于 1914 年在未经中国同意的情况下划定的麦克马洪线以及其他殖民时代的边界决定留下了有争议的边界遗产。
CandourDinkumOil49 赞2025/8/23
I thought it was my turn to post this? _rare historical photos_ my ass.
我以为轮到我发这个了? _罕见的历史照片_我的屁股。
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People are starving for upvotes!
人们渴望投票!
nazgulonbicycle47 赞2025/8/23
Man made Famines such as these, completely changed the anatomy, eating habits and relationship with money in South Asia. The average height of humans went down significantly and has been steadily increasing and still not to the full genetic potential. The mentality went from an abundant, benevolent society to one thinking only of themselves and their family, always thinking from a place of lack. Its taken a lot and it will take a lot more to undo. When the West laughs at India in social media, for being dirty, for being scammy, for having an accent, or for having a culture ffs — trust me, you have no idea what those people have suffered through to gain independence.
人类制造的饥荒彻底改变了南亚的解剖结构、饮食习惯以及与金钱的关系。人类的平均身高显着下降,并一直在稳步增长,但仍未充分发挥遗传潜力。人们的心态从一个富裕、仁慈的社会变成了一个只考虑自己和家人、总是从匮乏的地方思考的人。它已经花费了很多,而且还需要更多的时间来撤销。当西方在社交媒体上嘲笑印度肮脏、欺骗、有口音或文化时——相信我,你不知道那些人为了获得独立而经历了什么痛苦。
audesapere0917 赞2025/8/23
Western imperialism is such a huge blight on history— so big it eclipses the other subplots you’ve mentioned and goes unnoticed. One day.
西方帝国主义对历史造成了如此巨大的损害——如此之大以至于掩盖了你提到的其他次要情节并且被忽视。一天。
FefnirMKII39 赞2025/8/23
Remember the British did this and got away with it.
请记住,英国人就是这样做的,并且侥幸逃脱了惩罚。
Jazzlike_Method_764238 赞2025/8/23
If the holodomor is considered a genocide, then this should be too
如果大饥荒被认为是种族灭绝,那么这也应该是
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fR1chAps38 赞2025/8/23
It's really depressing that people don't know how fucked East India company and the subsequent British Raj was.
令人沮丧的是,人们不知道东印度公司和随后的英属印度是多么操蛋。
Mintyytea32 赞2025/8/23
Wow that’s real. Apparently those 150 years ago (honestly not that long ago!) British government kept insisting India ship the grain to them even during the famine, and it cause more than a million people there to die of starvation. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36339524.amp
哇,这是真的。显然,150年前(老实说,不久前!),即使在饥荒期间,英国政府仍坚持要求印度向他们运送粮食,导致那里超过一百万人饿死。 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-363​​39524.amp
drocha9429 赞2025/8/23
These people are about the size and look of my mom at the end of her battle with stomach cancer. The fact that this guy is sitting up and supposedly ready to fight off someone with any ability to do so at all is beyond impressive if true.
这些人的身材和外貌与我妈妈在与胃癌的斗争结束时的样子差不多。事实上,这个家伙正站起来,据说准备好与任何有能力这样做的人战斗,如果这是真的,那就太令人印象深刻了。
WaffleTacoFrappucino28 赞2025/8/23
i wish I could go back in time and air drop seeds from a plane all over their town and parachute down loafs of bread
我希望我能回到过去,从飞机上空投种子到他们的城镇各处,然后用降落伞降落面包
validationfreesoul18 赞2025/8/23
I’m glad I got to read this comment. It really is heartbreaking to the extent that we somehow want to fix it, despite having no option to do it.
我很高兴能读到这篇评论。尽管我们别无选择,但我们还是想以某种方式修复它,这确实令人心碎。
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urbanlocalnomad21 赞2025/8/23
If an indian says they hate the British don’t challenge them, ever.
如果一个印度人说他们讨厌英国人,永远不要挑战他们。
OneLonePineapple14 赞2025/8/23
There were so many famines under British rule. If you’re from the Indian subcontinent, you’re very familiar with stubborn belly fat, heart disease, and metabolic disease—it’s almost like a macabre right of passage. There is a [theory](https://researchopenworld.com/the-susceptibility-of-south-asians-to-cardiometabolic-disease-as-a-result-of-starvation-adaptation-exacerbated-during-the-colonial-famines/) that this is the result of an adaptation to survive famine. It’s one possible explanation for a very complicated set of issues, but it is a popular one.
英国统治下发生过很多饥荒。如果你来自印度次大陆,你就会对顽固的腹部脂肪、心脏病和代谢疾病非常熟悉——这几乎就像可怕的通行权。有一种理论认为,这是为了在饥荒中生存而适应的结果。这是对一系列非常复杂的问题的一种可能的解释,但它是一种流行的解释。
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I'm gonna show this photo to any British cunt who will come at me with "Oh colonization wasn't all that bad, we civilized you and gave you railways"
我要把这张照片给任何一个英国贱人看,他们会对我说“哦,殖民并没有那么糟糕,我们文明了你,给了你铁路”
Ok_Narwhal_920011 赞2025/8/23
Well if this isn't the bleakest fucking picture I've ever seen
好吧,如果这不是我见过的最凄凉的照片
JustaProton11 赞2025/8/23
Colonization is always bad for the colonized. It turns native people into foreigners.
殖民对于被殖民者来说总是不好的。它将本地人变成了外国人。
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Never forget what the British did to India.
永远不要忘记英国人对印度所做的一切。
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