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奥斯维辛幸存者怀抱曾孙女

奥斯维辛幸存者怀抱曾孙女

一位奥斯维辛集中营幸存者怀抱她的曾孙女。历史与生命的传承,令人动容。

30,876 赞 · 2025-07-24 · 61 条评论

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tias23111685 赞2025/7/24
如果我没看错数字的话,应该是 Marie Soifer。
wravyn272 赞2025/7/26
She was there for two years. How horrible, that poor lady. She must have been strong to survive that.
她在那儿待了两年。太可怕了,这可怜的女人。她当时一定得有多坚强才能活下来啊。
scalyblue132 赞2025/7/24
I’d wager a large part of her has never left
我敢说,她的灵魂深处恐怕从未离开过那个鬼地方。
Diacetyl-Morphin327 赞2025/7/24
"Convoy Destination: Auschwitz", oh my god... Auschwitz was a hybrid between concentration camp and extermination site. But there were KZ's like Treblinka that were for extermination only, there, the Nazis only took a very few prisoners from the first transports as "Sonderkommando" workers to do the dirty work, like getting the dead bodies out of the gas chambers and to the crematorium. When the transports got lower in numbers, the prisoners there realized, that the end of the camp was coming and they'd get executed by the Nazis. So they made a revolt and tried to escape, but only around \~100 were successfull in both getting out of the camp and survive the manhunt afterwards. Like one guy got to a village nearby, the people there did hide him in the basement and the Nazi deathsquads were coming in, they searched the house but they didn't find the hatch that led down underground. In Treblinka, the amounts of victims are from historian told in the range between 700'000 to 1 million. KZ Auschwitz had around 1.1-1.2 mio. deaths, depending on the sources. It gets more complicated with the numbers, because of the death marches and transfers to other camps when the Nazis realized, that the Soviet Red Army was closing in. The real number of victims overall is probably much higher. [Here's a detailed account from Stanislaw Hantz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3-m26zkYY), that survived Auschwitz, but you need to use the youtube translator to get english subtitles, if you don't speak german. He says in the beginning, that he didn't want to speak german anymore, but he does it for explaining the things. He had to learn german, because in the camps, german was the standard language. Orders and commands were told in german, so the people needed to quickly learn the most important words. They called it "Lagerzspracha", "language of the camp". It is the reason, why most survivors can speak german, they had to learn it very fast.
“车队目的地:奥斯维辛”,我的天啊…… 奥斯维辛既是集中营又是灭绝营。但有些像特雷布林卡(Treblinka)那样的纳粹集中营(KZ)是纯粹的灭绝营,在那儿,纳粹只从第一批运输车里挑了极少数囚犯作为“特遣队”(Sonderkommando)干脏活,比如把尸体从毒气室搬到火葬场。 当运输的囚犯人数变少时,那里的囚犯意识到集中营快走到头了,他们会被纳粹处决。于是他们发动了起义并试图逃跑,但只有大约100人成功逃出集中营并在随后的搜捕中活了下来。 比如有个人逃到了附近的一个村子,村民把他藏在了地下室。纳粹死亡小队搜查了那栋房子,但没发现通往地下的活板门。 在特雷布林卡,据历史学家统计,遇害者人数在70万到100万之间。奥斯维辛集中营的死亡人数大约在110万到120万左右,具体取决于来源。关于人数的问题很复杂,因为当纳粹意识到苏联红军逼近时,还有死亡行军以及向其他营地的转运。实际上,总的遇害者人数可能要高得多。 [这是斯坦尼斯瓦夫·汉茨(Stanislaw Hantz)的一份详细讲述](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3-m26zkYY),他是奥斯维辛的幸存者,如果你不懂德语,需要用YouTube的翻译功能看英文字幕。 他在开头说,他本来不想再讲德语了,但他为了解释清楚这些事情还是说了。他不得不学德语,因为在集中营里,德语是通用语。命令和指令都是用德语下达的,所以人们必须迅速学会最重要的单词。他们管这叫“Lagerzspracha”,也就是“集中营语言”。 这就是为什么大多数幸存者会说德语,因为他们被迫以极快的速度学会了它。
Ieatclowns91 赞2025/7/25
The name Treblinka always sounds terrifying to me…just something about the name.
每次听到“特雷布林卡”这个名字我都觉得毛骨悚然……这名字本身就透着一股子邪气。
Increase-Typical39 赞2025/7/24
I think it's because the "blink" sounds like "bleak" to me at least
我觉得可能是因为那个“blink”听着像“bleak”(荒凉/凄凉),至少对我来说是这样。
DDXD16 赞2025/7/24
Where can I read more about the revolt you referenced? That's sounds heroic and super interesting.
哪里能读到关于你提到的那次起义的更多细节?听起来太英勇也太让人震撼了。
Dambo_Unchained37 赞2025/7/24
Jesus fucking Christ Theres online databases to look this shit up
卧槽,真他妈绝了。
Ask-For-Sources70 赞2025/7/24
Yes, the Nazis documented nearly everything with the most modern technology available at that time and thanks to the fast advancementd of the allies, the Nazis weren't able to destroy all of those documents. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ibm-holocaust_b_1301691 Which btw makes Holocaust denial so tragically stupid.
没错,纳粹当时用最先进的技术记录了几乎所有事情。多亏了盟军推进得够快,纳粹没能销毁所有的档案。
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cheshire_kat716 赞2025/7/25
Yes - it wasn't a uniquely awful genocide because all genocides are awful, but it was a uniquely industrial, bureaucratic genocide.
没错——倒不是说这是唯一的一场惨绝人寰的种族灭绝,毕竟所有种族灭绝都令人发指,但它是历史上唯一一场工业化、官僚化的种族灭绝。
anticism49 赞2025/7/25
i've always found it soul-crushing and disheartening that we can identify a PERSON from concentration camps just by inserting their 'number'. how horribly they must've lived is the only thing in the world i can't imagine.
我一直觉得特别扎心、特别绝望的一点是:单凭一个“编号”就能查出集中营里的某个人。他们当时到底过得有多惨,是我这辈子唯一无法想象的事。
Heavy_Law988017 赞2025/7/25
Just look at pictures of the people in Gaza or the people in Alligator Auschwitz and you don't have to imagine. We are doing it all again and didn't even wait for the last batch of survivors to die off.
看看加沙那些人的照片,或者看看“短吻鳄奥斯威辛”(指极端恶劣的生存环境),你根本不用去想。我们正重蹈覆辙,甚至都没等上一批幸存者离世。
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I think the survivors dieing off is *why* it's happening again. Just because you beat the Nazis or free the slaves or desegregate schools or whatever doesn't mean the bad guys gave up. They just lay low. Teach the next generation. Bide their time. And new assholes are being born every minute. In the US, all the Confederate memorials and the height of the KKK started as the last of the Civil War veterans were dieing out. Antivax became popular with the first generations that had nothing to fear from diseases like polio. And fascism is back, as bad as ever, now that the witnesses to the last iteration are all but gone. Those who forget history, and all that. Living memory ends and we have to do all this shit over again.
我觉得正是因为幸存者们正在离世,同样的事情才会再次发生。你击败了纳粹、解放了奴隶、废除了种族隔离或者做了其他什么,并不代表那些坏家伙就此罢休了。他们只是潜伏起来,去教下一代,然后静候时机。 而且,每分钟都有新的混蛋出生。 在美国,所有的邦联纪念碑和三K党的鼎盛时期,都是在南北战争老兵即将凋零时出现的。反疫苗运动是在第一代不用再担心小儿麻痹症等疾病的人群中流行起来的。而现在,随着上一代亲历者几乎消失殆尽,法西斯主义又卷土重来,而且变本加厉。 这就叫“忘记历史的人必将重蹈覆辙”那一套吧。当鲜活的记忆终结,我们就得把这些烂事儿再重演一遍。
Evening_Excuse1644 赞2025/7/26
Wow .... that hits even harder 🙏
哇……这话简直太扎心了 🙏
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How do you survive 2 years in an extermination camp
在灭绝营里到底是怎么活过两年的啊?
Weak-Doughnut550238 赞2025/7/25
Auschwitz was both a work camp and an extermination camp. When you got there, they sorted people into one group to work them to death, and another group to just be immediately gassed.
奥斯威辛既是劳改营也是灭绝营。人一到那儿,就会被分类:一组人被抓去干活干到死,另一组直接被送进毒气室。
KevinFlantier34 赞2025/7/24
They were also labor camps. And possibly some officer took a liking to raping her and decided not to have exterminated just yet.
它们同时也是劳工营。可能是有哪个军官看她顺眼,想强奸她,所以才决定先不把她干掉。
TheDarkRam1996490 赞2025/7/24
Every endearing moment between them is a quiet, beautiful “fuck you” to the Nazis who tried to erase her. She survived. And now her great-granddaughter is here, full of life. They failed, love didn’t. Now she gets to do grandma things like spoil the baby and live rent-free in the heads of genocidal fascists for eternity.
她们之间每一个温馨的瞬间,都是对那些试图抹杀她存在的纳粹无声而有力的“去你大爷的”。她活下来了,现在她的曾孙女就在这儿,生机勃勃。纳粹失败了,爱赢了。
OkMathematician3439181 赞2025/7/25
Unfortunately, I know someone who had a grandparent who survived the Holocaust and their trauma was lifelong and they were very closed off because of it. It’s not true in every case of course but many holocaust survivors developed severe mental health issues as a result of what they experienced and mental healthcare wasn’t accessible back then.
挺遗憾的,我认识一个人,他祖辈就是大屠杀幸存者。那种创伤伴随了他们一生,让他们变得特别封闭。当然不是所有情况都这样,但很多大屠杀幸存者确实因为那段经历留下了严重的心理问题,而那时候根本没地方去做心理疏导。
ArgonGryphon50 赞2025/7/25
Maus talks about that specifically.
《鼠族》(Maus)那本书专门讲过这个。
Yunatan7725 赞2025/7/24
That's how it was with my grandmother
我奶奶那时候也是这样。
OkMathematician343915 赞2025/7/26
I’m so sorry.
真遗憾,抱歉听到这些。
cheshire_kat7110 赞2025/7/24
Yep. I'm Jewish, and there have been more than a few times when I've looked around while at the synagogue and privately thought to myself that our existence is the best revenge.
可不是嘛。我是犹太人,在犹太会堂里有好几次,我环顾四周时心里都在想:我们能够存续至今,就是最好的复仇。
BearBleu21 赞2025/7/25
Amen ✡️
说得好 ✡️
single_use_doorknob28 赞2025/7/25
>our existence is the best revenge Am Yisrael Chai, my friend!
>我们能够存续至今,就是最好的复仇
Artermism7617 赞2025/7/24
This
赞同,就是这个意思。
BonJovicus300 赞2025/7/25
Even in such a beautiful picture that tattoo is so grim.
哪怕是在这么美好的一张照片里,那个纹身看起来也还是太沉重了。
Leather_Class8224147 赞2025/7/24
When I was a medical student nearly twenty years ago, I had a patient who was a concentration camp survivor and she had a similar tattoo. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen one in person and I’ll never forget it.
快二十年前我还在读医学院的时候,有个病人是集中营幸存者,她身上也有类似的纹身。那是我唯一一次亲眼见到,这辈子都忘不掉。
poop_monster3560 赞2025/7/25
That must have been so harrowing to see in person. Just the picture sends chills down my spine.
亲眼看到那玩意儿一定很揪心吧。光是看照片都让我背后发凉。
brittanyelyse27 赞2025/7/25
It was, my grandfather had one and I had total fear in my bones every time I saw it. I mean, he died when I was 5, so I think I get a pass of feeling that way.. but, im 40 and every memory I have of him is based around the fear of the tattoo so
确实揪心。我爷爷身上也有一个,我每次看到都从骨子里感到恐惧。我是说,他去世时我才5岁,我觉得我有理由感到害怕……但现在我都40了,关于他的所有记忆却全都围绕着对那个纹身的恐惧。
throwawaydragon9999919 赞2025/7/24
Used to see them all the time growing up in Brooklyn. I used to go to this tailor that specializes in kids clothing in the Orthodox Jewish part of Williamsburg and the whole shop was owned/ run by these old guys with concentration camp numbers, and their wives and kids.
在布鲁克林长大的时候经常看到他们。我曾经去过威廉斯堡东正教犹太区的一家专门生产儿童服装的裁缝店,整个商店都是由这些有集中营号码的老家伙以及他们的妻子和孩子拥有/经营的。
beigs39 赞2025/7/24
I had a teacher growing up who was a small child. She said they were escaping in fields from a camp and every time the light flashed over the field her and her family ducked with a bunch of other escapees. They lost her little sister that day while escaping in those fields and she never saw her again. She hoped her sister was picked up by another person but she could have been trampled or just died. This was in the 90s and my teacher was in her 50-60s. It was a hard thing to hear, but it was HS and we were learning about the holocaust.
我成长过程中有一位老师,他还是个小孩子。她说,他们从营地逃到田野里,每次田野上空闪过光芒,她和她的家人就会和其他逃亡者一起躲开。那天他们在田野里逃亡时失去了她的小妹妹,她再也没有见过她。她希望她的妹妹能被另一个人接走,但她可能会被践踏或直接死掉。 那是在 90 年代,我的老师 50-60 多岁。这是一件很难听的事情,但这是 HS,我们正在了解大屠杀。
Less_Conclusion3593217 赞2025/7/25
Hey reddit here's a handy guide to find out if you're antisemitic or not. See post about the Israeli government/IDF/person openly supporting what's going on, and you make it about gaza/imply they're evil? Fair. See post about a jewish person with zero context related to israel/their opinions on the situation and you make it about gaza/imply they're evil? You are antisemetic. Hope this helps. EDIT: [image](image) always a pleasure reddit, lol
嘿,reddit,这里有一个方便的指南,可以帮助您了解您是否反犹太主义。 看到关于以色列政府/以色列国防军/公开支持正在发生的事情的人的帖子,你却把它写成关于加沙/暗示他们是邪恶的? 公平的。 看到关于一个与以色列零背景的犹太人的帖子/他们对局势的看法,你却把它写成关于加沙/暗示他们是邪恶的? 你是反犹太主义者。 希望这有帮助。 编辑:[image](image) 总是很高兴reddit,哈哈
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To be fair, it’s hard for them to remember the distinction because in their minds there is no distinction.
公平地说,他们很难记住其中的区别,因为在他们的头脑中没有区别。
flickfunnem43 赞2025/7/24
“Anti Zionists” just can’t help themselves. They say it’s not antisemitism and comment the same propaganda under Holocaust survivor pictures. They’re all the same, and they have no shame.
“反犹太复国主义者”简直无法自拔。他们说这不是反犹太主义,并在大屠杀幸存者的照片下评论了同样的宣传。他们都是一样的,他们没有羞耻心。
SisterAngelaDavis89 赞2025/7/25
NEVER FORGET!!
永远不要忘记!
Rabbit-Hole-Quest26 赞2025/7/24
Never again for any human anywhere should be the rallying point for all of humanity.
对于任何人来说,任何地方都不再应该成为全人类的集结点。
cloudcreeek74 赞2025/7/26
I know it's just my own projection but it looks like that baby sees so much of the grandma's pain and empathizes with it.
我知道这只是我自己的投射,但看起来那个婴儿看到了奶奶的那么多痛苦并对此表示同情。
TheCitizenXane91 赞2025/7/24
It looks like the baby is thinking “goo goo gah gah” to me, but that could be my own projection too.
看起来宝宝在对我说“咕咕嘎嘎”,但这也可能是我自己的投射。
No-Exercise-603145 赞2025/7/26
*Sighs* *Opens comments*
*叹息* *打开评论*
ByornJaeger27 赞2025/7/24
Surprisingly few truly despicable comments Edit: I should have stopped scrolling before I got the other side of the bell curve.
居然没见到太多那种卑劣至极的评论。 编辑:我早该在滑到钟形曲线另一端之前就停止滚动屏幕的。
justnarrow42 赞2025/7/24
That photo is pure resilience, generations of love and life standing defiant against history’s darkest attempt to destroy them.
这张照片简直是坚韧的化身,几代人的爱与生命,在历史上最黑暗的灭绝企图面前傲然挺立。
metheegod35 赞2025/7/25
Is the number on her arm, her marking? OMFG, and you live with that for life. A constant reminder.
她胳膊上的那个数字是她的烙印吗?我的天呐,竟然要带着这种东西过一辈子。时刻提醒着那段经历。
ShikaStyleR35 赞2025/7/26
Yup. Growing up, most of my friends' grandparents had a number like this on their wrists. It's terrible.
是的。我小时候,我大部分朋友的祖父母手腕上都有这样的编号。太可怕了。
bearhorn628 赞2025/7/24
I have similar photos with my great grandfather. He and his wife survived by living in the woods killing Nazis then made it to Cuba after the war ended. Absolute legends and amazing photos although his eyes are horrifying to look at. The Holocaust despite what many like to pretend is very recent history I’m only 22 and grew up surrounded by survivors and standing their stories directly form them
我也有和我曾祖父类似的合影。他和妻子当年躲在森林里靠干掉纳粹活了下来,战后逃到了古巴。他们绝对是传奇,照片也很震撼,虽然每次看他眼神都觉得背脊发凉。大屠杀并非像许多人装作的那样已经很遥远了,其实它就在眼前。我才22岁,从小就是听着幸存者亲口讲述这些故事长大的。
hamburgercide14 赞2025/7/26
Imagine being so delusional confident in your genocidal views that you number and document each victim
得有多丧心病狂且迷之自信,才会把种族灭绝这种行径,还要给每个受害者编上号、建档记录啊。
BeastBear7713 赞2025/7/25
עם ישראל חי! 🇮🇱
以色列民族万岁!(Am Yisrael Chai!)🇮🇱
Raesh77112 赞2025/7/25
I didn't know a picture could be both heartwarming and heartbreaking.
没想到一张照片竟然能同时让人感到暖心又心碎。
Stonner229 赞2025/7/25
I pray god forgives us for what we have done to each other
祈求上帝宽恕我们对彼此犯下的罪孽。
Boudicia_Dark9 赞2025/7/25
Curious about the upisde down triangle below the number. I understand the pink triangle was to designate gay men, the black triangle designated lesbians, what's the empty triangle? Disabled?
对编号下面的倒三角形挺好奇的。我知道粉色三角形代表男同性恋,黑色代表女同性恋,那这个空心的三角形是什么意思?残障人士吗?
Nvolk_Ellak9 赞2025/7/25
I remember one holocaust survivor(in a documentary) said having grandchildren is the greatest revenge on the nazis.
我记得有个大屠杀幸存者(在一部纪录片里)说过,有孙辈是给纳粹最狠的复仇。
New_Zorgo398 赞2025/7/25
I think she is happy to see her family grow, and see her grandchild grow up in peaceful surroundings, and (hopefully) never experience anything like she did.
我觉得她看到家人开枝散叶,看到孙辈在和平的环境下长大,(希望)永远不用经历她当年遭遇的一切,肯定很开心。
RedDad157 赞2025/7/26
My grandma had a similar picture (seven times...). Kind of a win.
我奶奶也有过类似的照片(有七张……)。某种程度上算是赢麻了。
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Reddituserrr_35 赞2025/7/25
Idk why, but this photo breaks my heart and makes me so happy at the same time. Sending all my love to them both 🫶
不知道为什么,这张照片让我心碎,但也同时让我觉得好幸福。给她们俩送上我所有的爱 🫶
Affectionate_Yam16545 赞2025/7/24
Love it. I been to war, not like her, but cleaned up my fair share of bits of people. From the cruelty of that ink to the joy of seeing her grandbaby all in one picture. We are complicated creatures and war is fuckin rough, but glimpses like this are proof that hope is never wasted.
太棒了。我也上过战场,虽然比不上她,但也确实处理过不少那种烂摊子。从那纹身里透露出的残酷,到照片里含饴弄孙的喜悦,全都在这一张图里了。我们人类真是复杂的生物,战争他妈的太残酷了,但像这样的瞬间就是证明——希望永远不会白费。
Practical-Dish-45225 赞2025/7/25
Shits dope
这玩意儿真牛逼
CompanyAltruistic1165 赞2025/7/25
🙌🏻
🙌🏻
Recon_Figure4 赞2025/7/24
Don't know her, but I'm glad she got to.
虽然不认识她,但真替她高兴,她终于等到了这一天。
Wokeupthismorning24 赞2025/7/24
God bless her, I hope the rest of her life was peaceful
愿上帝保佑她,希望她余生都能平安顺遂。
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