She was there for two years. How horrible, that poor lady. She must have been strong to survive that.
她在那儿待了两年。太可怕了,这可怜的女人。她当时一定得有多坚强才能活下来啊。
scalyblue132 赞2025/7/24
I’d wager a large part of her has never left
我敢说,她的灵魂深处恐怕从未离开过那个鬼地方。
Diacetyl-Morphin327 赞2025/7/24
"Convoy Destination: Auschwitz", oh my god... Auschwitz was a hybrid between concentration camp and extermination site. But there were KZ's like Treblinka that were for extermination only, there, the Nazis only took a very few prisoners from the first transports as "Sonderkommando" workers to do the dirty work, like getting the dead bodies out of the gas chambers and to the crematorium. When the transports got lower in numbers, the prisoners there realized, that the end of the camp was coming and they'd get executed by the Nazis. So they made a revolt and tried to escape, but only around \~100 were successfull in both getting out of the camp and survive the manhunt afterwards. Like one guy got to a village nearby, the people there did hide him in the basement and the Nazi deathsquads were coming in, they searched the house but they didn't find the hatch that led down underground. In Treblinka, the amounts of victims are from historian told in the range between 700'000 to 1 million. KZ Auschwitz had around 1.1-1.2 mio. deaths, depending on the sources. It gets more complicated with the numbers, because of the death marches and transfers to other camps when the Nazis realized, that the Soviet Red Army was closing in. The real number of victims overall is probably much higher. [Here's a detailed account from Stanislaw Hantz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3-m26zkYY), that survived Auschwitz, but you need to use the youtube translator to get english subtitles, if you don't speak german. He says in the beginning, that he didn't want to speak german anymore, but he does it for explaining the things. He had to learn german, because in the camps, german was the standard language. Orders and commands were told in german, so the people needed to quickly learn the most important words. They called it "Lagerzspracha", "language of the camp". It is the reason, why most survivors can speak german, they had to learn it very fast.
The name Treblinka always sounds terrifying to me…just something about the name.
每次听到“特雷布林卡”这个名字我都觉得毛骨悚然……这名字本身就透着一股子邪气。
Increase-Typical39 赞2025/7/24
I think it's because the "blink" sounds like "bleak" to me at least
我觉得可能是因为那个“blink”听着像“bleak”(荒凉/凄凉),至少对我来说是这样。
DDXD16 赞2025/7/24
Where can I read more about the revolt you referenced? That's sounds heroic and super interesting.
哪里能读到关于你提到的那次起义的更多细节?听起来太英勇也太让人震撼了。
Dambo_Unchained37 赞2025/7/24
Jesus fucking Christ Theres online databases to look this shit up
卧槽,真他妈绝了。
Ask-For-Sources70 赞2025/7/24
Yes, the Nazis documented nearly everything with the most modern technology available at that time and thanks to the fast advancementd of the allies, the Nazis weren't able to destroy all of those documents. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ibm-holocaust_b_1301691 Which btw makes Holocaust denial so tragically stupid.
没错,纳粹当时用最先进的技术记录了几乎所有事情。多亏了盟军推进得够快,纳粹没能销毁所有的档案。
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cheshire_kat716 赞2025/7/25
Yes - it wasn't a uniquely awful genocide because all genocides are awful, but it was a uniquely industrial, bureaucratic genocide.
i've always found it soul-crushing and disheartening that we can identify a PERSON from concentration camps just by inserting their 'number'. how horribly they must've lived is the only thing in the world i can't imagine.
Just look at pictures of the people in Gaza or the people in Alligator Auschwitz and you don't have to imagine. We are doing it all again and didn't even wait for the last batch of survivors to die off.
I think the survivors dieing off is *why* it's happening again. Just because you beat the Nazis or free the slaves or desegregate schools or whatever doesn't mean the bad guys gave up. They just lay low. Teach the next generation. Bide their time. And new assholes are being born every minute. In the US, all the Confederate memorials and the height of the KKK started as the last of the Civil War veterans were dieing out. Antivax became popular with the first generations that had nothing to fear from diseases like polio. And fascism is back, as bad as ever, now that the witnesses to the last iteration are all but gone. Those who forget history, and all that. Living memory ends and we have to do all this shit over again.
How do you survive 2 years in an extermination camp
在灭绝营里到底是怎么活过两年的啊?
Weak-Doughnut550238 赞2025/7/25
Auschwitz was both a work camp and an extermination camp. When you got there, they sorted people into one group to work them to death, and another group to just be immediately gassed.
They were also labor camps. And possibly some officer took a liking to raping her and decided not to have exterminated just yet.
它们同时也是劳工营。可能是有哪个军官看她顺眼,想强奸她,所以才决定先不把她干掉。
TheDarkRam1996490 赞2025/7/24
Every endearing moment between them is a quiet, beautiful “fuck you” to the Nazis who tried to erase her. She survived. And now her great-granddaughter is here, full of life. They failed, love didn’t.
Now she gets to do grandma things like spoil the baby and live rent-free in the heads of genocidal fascists for eternity.
Unfortunately, I know someone who had a grandparent who survived the Holocaust and their trauma was lifelong and they were very closed off because of it. It’s not true in every case of course but many holocaust survivors developed severe mental health issues as a result of what they experienced and mental healthcare wasn’t accessible back then.
Yep. I'm Jewish, and there have been more than a few times when I've looked around while at the synagogue and privately thought to myself that our existence is the best revenge.
>our existence is the best revenge Am Yisrael Chai, my friend!
>我们能够存续至今,就是最好的复仇
Artermism7617 赞2025/7/24
This
赞同,就是这个意思。
BonJovicus300 赞2025/7/25
Even in such a beautiful picture that tattoo is so grim.
哪怕是在这么美好的一张照片里,那个纹身看起来也还是太沉重了。
Leather_Class8224147 赞2025/7/24
When I was a medical student nearly twenty years ago, I had a patient who was a concentration camp survivor and she had a similar tattoo. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen one in person and I’ll never forget it.
That must have been so harrowing to see in person. Just the picture sends chills down my spine.
亲眼看到那玩意儿一定很揪心吧。光是看照片都让我背后发凉。
brittanyelyse27 赞2025/7/25
It was, my grandfather had one and I had total fear in my bones every time I saw it. I mean, he died when I was 5, so I think I get a pass of feeling that way.. but, im 40 and every memory I have of him is based around the fear of the tattoo so
Used to see them all the time growing up in Brooklyn. I used to go to this tailor that specializes in kids clothing in the Orthodox Jewish part of Williamsburg and the whole shop was owned/ run by these old guys with concentration camp numbers, and their wives and kids.
I had a teacher growing up who was a small child. She said they were escaping in fields from a camp and every time the light flashed over the field her and her family ducked with a bunch of other escapees. They lost her little sister that day while escaping in those fields and she never saw her again. She hoped her sister was picked up by another person but she could have been trampled or just died. This was in the 90s and my teacher was in her 50-60s. It was a hard thing to hear, but it was HS and we were learning about the holocaust.
Hey reddit here's a handy guide to find out if you're antisemitic or not. See post about the Israeli government/IDF/person openly supporting what's going on, and you make it about gaza/imply they're evil? Fair. See post about a jewish person with zero context related to israel/their opinions on the situation and you make it about gaza/imply they're evil? You are antisemetic. Hope this helps. EDIT: []() always a pleasure reddit, lol
To be fair, it’s hard for them to remember the distinction because in their minds there is no distinction.
公平地说,他们很难记住其中的区别,因为在他们的头脑中没有区别。
flickfunnem43 赞2025/7/24
“Anti Zionists” just can’t help themselves. They say it’s not antisemitism and comment the same propaganda under Holocaust survivor pictures. They’re all the same, and they have no shame.
Never again for any human anywhere should be the rallying point for all of humanity.
对于任何人来说,任何地方都不再应该成为全人类的集结点。
cloudcreeek74 赞2025/7/26
I know it's just my own projection but it looks like that baby sees so much of the grandma's pain and empathizes with it.
我知道这只是我自己的投射,但看起来那个婴儿看到了奶奶的那么多痛苦并对此表示同情。
TheCitizenXane91 赞2025/7/24
It looks like the baby is thinking “goo goo gah gah” to me, but that could be my own projection too.
看起来宝宝在对我说“咕咕嘎嘎”,但这也可能是我自己的投射。
No-Exercise-603145 赞2025/7/26
*Sighs* *Opens comments*
*叹息* *打开评论*
ByornJaeger27 赞2025/7/24
Surprisingly few truly despicable comments Edit: I should have stopped scrolling before I got the other side of the bell curve.
居然没见到太多那种卑劣至极的评论。
编辑:我早该在滑到钟形曲线另一端之前就停止滚动屏幕的。
justnarrow42 赞2025/7/24
That photo is pure resilience, generations of love and life standing defiant against history’s darkest attempt to destroy them.
这张照片简直是坚韧的化身,几代人的爱与生命,在历史上最黑暗的灭绝企图面前傲然挺立。
metheegod35 赞2025/7/25
Is the number on her arm, her marking? OMFG, and you live with that for life. A constant reminder.
她胳膊上的那个数字是她的烙印吗?我的天呐,竟然要带着这种东西过一辈子。时刻提醒着那段经历。
ShikaStyleR35 赞2025/7/26
Yup. Growing up, most of my friends' grandparents had a number like this on their wrists. It's terrible.
是的。我小时候,我大部分朋友的祖父母手腕上都有这样的编号。太可怕了。
bearhorn628 赞2025/7/24
I have similar photos with my great grandfather. He and his wife survived by living in the woods killing Nazis then made it to Cuba after the war ended. Absolute legends and amazing photos although his eyes are horrifying to look at. The Holocaust despite what many like to pretend is very recent history I’m only 22 and grew up surrounded by survivors and standing their stories directly form them
Imagine being so delusional confident in your genocidal views that you number and document each victim
得有多丧心病狂且迷之自信,才会把种族灭绝这种行径,还要给每个受害者编上号、建档记录啊。
BeastBear7713 赞2025/7/25
עם ישראל חי! 🇮🇱
以色列民族万岁!(Am Yisrael Chai!)🇮🇱
Raesh77112 赞2025/7/25
I didn't know a picture could be both heartwarming and heartbreaking.
没想到一张照片竟然能同时让人感到暖心又心碎。
Stonner229 赞2025/7/25
I pray god forgives us for what we have done to each other
祈求上帝宽恕我们对彼此犯下的罪孽。
Boudicia_Dark9 赞2025/7/25
Curious about the upisde down triangle below the number. I understand the pink triangle was to designate gay men, the black triangle designated lesbians, what's the empty triangle? Disabled?
I remember one holocaust survivor(in a documentary) said having grandchildren is the greatest revenge on the nazis.
我记得有个大屠杀幸存者(在一部纪录片里)说过,有孙辈是给纳粹最狠的复仇。
New_Zorgo398 赞2025/7/25
I think she is happy to see her family grow, and see her grandchild grow up in peaceful surroundings, and (hopefully) never experience anything like she did.
My grandma had a similar picture (seven times...). Kind of a win.
我奶奶也有过类似的照片(有七张……)。某种程度上算是赢麻了。
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Reddituserrr_35 赞2025/7/25
Idk why, but this photo breaks my heart and makes me so happy at the same time. Sending all my love to them both 🫶
不知道为什么,这张照片让我心碎,但也同时让我觉得好幸福。给她们俩送上我所有的爱 🫶
Affectionate_Yam16545 赞2025/7/24
Love it. I been to war, not like her, but cleaned up my fair share of bits of people. From the cruelty of that ink to the joy of seeing her grandbaby all in one picture. We are complicated creatures and war is fuckin rough, but glimpses like this are proof that hope is never wasted.