1991年，八个人将自己密封在生物圈2号内——这是亚利桑那州一个耗资1.5亿美元的封闭生态系统——希望在一个未来太空栖息地的原型中自给自足地生活两年。
1991年，八个人将自己密封在生物圈2号内——这是亚利桑那州一个耗资1.5亿美元的封闭生态系统——希望在一个未来太空栖息地的原型中自给自足地生活两年。
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admiralsponge19801,255 赞2025/6/18
This is one of the reasons why I am skeptical that we will have a colony on mars anytime in the next 100 years. We can’t even manage oxygen levels in a closed system here on earth. We don’t grow food at scale at Antarctica, a place where it would be 1000 times easier than mars. We ain’t ready. We ain’t anywhere close to ready.
这就是我为啥觉得未来 100 年内人类都没法在火星建立殖民地的原因之一。我们在地球上搞个封闭系统连氧气含量都控制不好。在南极这种环境比火星容易一千倍的地方，我们都还没实现大规模农作物种植。
theinvisibleworm402 赞2025/6/18
You’re right, but we’re ready for biosphere 3 IMO. The first was *35 years ago*. We have all the data from it, better equipment and technology, AI design and management systems…
你说得对，但我个人认为我们已经准备好搞“生物圈 3 号”了。第一个生物圈计划可是 35 年前的事儿了。我们手里有当时的所有数据，现在的设备和技术也更强了，还有 AI 设计和管理系统……
Monskiactual132 赞2025/6/18
we just nned an altrusitic visonary billionare..
我们缺的只是个有大爱、有远见的亿万富翁……
Memphissippian122 赞2025/6/18
For a second there I thought you said autistic
有那么一瞬间，我以为你说的是“自闭症”（autistic）亿万富翁。
giantpunda64 赞2025/6/18
That's more achievable than an altruistic visionary billionaire
那可比“有大爱、有远见”的亿万富翁好实现多了。
boldedwoods20 赞2025/6/17
Ong me too they might as well add that
讲真我也是，他们干脆加上这个设定得了。
Meritania21 赞2025/6/17
‘Altruistic billionaire’ is an oxymoron
“有大爱的亿万富翁”简直就是自相矛盾。
Weary-Animator-264631 赞2025/6/18
What if I just, yknow, throw a rock at the glass walls, like… really hard.
要是我，你知道吧，往那玻璃墙上砸块石头会怎样……还是那种使劲儿砸。
legal_stylist42 赞2025/6/17
The truth is … we will never be ready. Space and the other planets are far, far too inhospitable to make long-term, or even medium term habitation practical.
事实是……我们永远都不会准备好。太空和其他行星环境太恶劣了，搞长期甚至中期的居住根本就不切实际。
anotherfrud75 赞2025/6/17
In a weird way, I think even the concept of it is harmful. Uneducated people seem to think that if we mess up this planet, we can always just move to Mars. They don't realize that the undertaking to make that possible is orders of magnitude more difficult than taking care of the planet we already have.
说来奇怪，我觉得连这种“殖民火星”的概念本身都有害。没常识的人总觉得，如果我们把地球搞砸了，随时都能搬去火星。他们根本没意识到，想实现那一目标，难度比保护好现有的地球要高出几个数量级。
canycosro24 赞2025/6/17
The idea that space travel is going to save humanity instead of a handful of billionaires. If we have the technology to travel mars and make colonies then we have the technology to ruin earth
觉得太空旅行能拯救全人类而不是只救那几个亿万富翁，这想法真是够了。
Ok_Major578731 赞2025/6/17
Not to mention the physical harm to our bodies caused by living in a place with different gravity, different hours of day/night, different atmosphere leading to different levels of space radiation etc. We’re very adapted to earth and there are so many things about living on Mars that would be difficult for our bodies to handle long-term
更别提生活在那种重力、昼夜时长、大气环境完全不同的地方，还得面对各种太空辐射，对咱们的身体伤害有多大了。
876 赞2025/6/18
Biodome wasn’t that far fetched after all
看来《生物圈2号》（Biodome）这片子也没那么扯淡嘛。
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Purple sticky punch!
紫色粘粘的冲剂！
27 赞2025/6/19
Illegal!! Illegal!!!
非法！！非法！！！
26 赞2025/6/17
Shave Poochie Poochie!
给狗狗剃毛！
59 赞2025/6/17
Well where do you think the idea for the movie came from buuuuuuddie
你以为这电影的灵感是哪儿来的啊，老兄。（拖长音）
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It was through this they realised the Trees inside without wind, would grow weaker than others on Earth because they didn't have the strength to be resilient enough. >In Biosphere 2, trees grew quickly but unexpectedly collapsed before reaching maturity due to the absence of wind, this lack of wind-induced stress prevented the trees from developing strong roots and trunks, including stress wood, which is crucial for structural support, the tree's weakness highlighted the importance of natural stressors in promoting resilience and healthy growth in trees.
正是通过这一点，他们意识到温室里没有风的树，会比地球上其他的树长得更虚弱，因为它们缺乏足够的强度来变得坚韧。
>在“生物圈2号”里，树木长得很快，但还没长成材就意料之外地倒了，原因就是没有风。这种缺乏风力刺激的环境导致树木没能练就强壮的根系和树干（包括应力木），而这些对于结构支撑至关重要。树木的这种虚弱状态，凸显了自然压力对于促进树木健康生长和提升韧性的重要性。
21 赞2025/6/17
I believe the film was shot at that location.
我记得这电影好像就是在那儿拍的。
295 赞2025/6/18
How did it go
情况咋样？
976 赞2025/6/18
Excellent, the party leader started using the inhabitants as test subjects for his fad low calorie diet, nearly all the animal life died, the oxygen level fell nearly 7 percent the inhabitants were constantly hungry and ended up eating their seed stocks, the combination of low oxygen and hunger left the humans in a desperately depressed and agitated state, insects started to take over and aggressive natural species of plant murdered off the nice ones the folks brought in. in short the experiment was wildly successful in showing entrusting the habitat of the earth to people is a bad idea.
绝了。那个带头的开始把居民当成他那套“低卡节食法”的小白鼠，结果动物几乎全死光了，氧气含量跌了快7%，大家饿得不行，最后连播种用的存粮都给啃了。低氧加上饥饿，把人折腾得个个抑郁又暴躁，最后虫子横行，原本带来的一些好品种植物全被那些攻击性强的野草给干掉了。总之，这场实验极其“成功”地证明了一件事：把地球交给人类去折腾简直就是个馊主意。
430 赞2025/6/18
apparently the starvation shrunk all of their organs and got rid of any inflammation they had. Some of them reported feeling younger after recovering from it all. It must have been the most brutal intermittent fasting anyone's tried in a long time.
看来那场饥荒把他们内脏都给饿缩水了，顺便还把炎症也给治好了。有些人事后还说感觉自己变年轻了。这绝对是有史以来最硬核的“间歇性断食”了。
82 赞2025/6/18
Were they actually aging less or anything of that effect?
他们是真的变年轻了，还是有别的什么效果？
156 赞2025/6/17
People into fasting love to go on about autophagy, where your body essentially eats old/damaged cells in an attempt to conserve resources. There might be something to it, but I haven't done enough research to say either way. Personally though, I've felt pretty great after doing 36 hour fasts. Right around the 24 hour mark, I'd suddenly get a surge of energy, my mind felt clearer, etc.
那些迷信断食的人特爱吹什么“细胞自噬”，就是身体为了省资源把那些老旧受损的细胞给吃了。这事儿可能有点门道，但我没深入研究过，不好说。不过说实话，我断食36小时后感觉确实挺爽。基本到24小时左右，我会突然来一股劲儿，脑子也变清醒了之类的。
158 赞2025/6/18
Maybe your brain thought it would help you hunt
可能你大脑觉得这样能帮你去打猎吧。
84 赞2025/6/18
I think it is more this.
我觉得多半是这样。
27 赞2025/6/19
Yeah I doubt that even if autophagy is effective that it would do enough to make a noticeable difference after a day. I've always imagined it was to help you hunt as well.
是啊，就算“细胞自噬”真有用，我也不信一天时间就能让你感觉有啥明显差别。我也一直觉得那纯粹是为了让你更有动力去打猎。
15 赞2025/6/18
either way, it is changing the chemistry in your brain and body. There could be benefits to that.
反正不管是啥，这玩意儿确实改变了你脑子和身体的化学反应。可能确实有好处吧。
47 赞2025/6/17
I've got something else that gives a rush, clear mind, changes my brain chemistry and helps me diet, Cocaine!!
我倒是有个别的法子能让人兴奋、头脑清醒、改变脑内化学物质还能辅助节食，那就是——可卡因！！
54 赞2025/6/17
I do intermittent fasting but only like 20 hours, and I also do long trail runs that end in a polar plunge (I run to a waterfall that has snow all around, sometimes it’s activity snowing while I’m soaking). Im also a middle school science teacher and I was trying to tell them how like the runners high plus the cold plunge makes my brain electrified, colors are brighter, I can think so clearly, surge of energy etc. One of my favorite students just has the most confused look on his face while I’m saying this and he just raises his hand and is like “honestly Mrs Peak, it sounds like you’re dying and your brain is trying to tell you that”. Lol
我平时会做轻断食，不过也就是20个小时那种，我还会去跑长距离越野，跑完直接跳进冰水里（跑到瀑布底下，周围全是雪，有时候我泡在水里的时候还在下雪）。我还是个中学科学老师，我当时正跟学生形容那种跑步后的快感加上冷水冲击，让我的大脑简直像通了电，世界都变鲜艳了，思维清晰得不行，浑身能量爆棚之类的话。结果我一个最喜欢的学生听得一脸懵逼，直接举手问我：“Peak老师，讲真，听起来像是你快挂了，然后你的大脑在试图给你发最后的信号。” 哈哈。
24 赞2025/6/18
Sounds more like it shows that having non-experts make decisions regarding technical stuff is a bad idea. If the leader was controlling the diet of others, I wouldn't be surprised if he also made the decisions that led to the animals dying and the oxigen levels to lower.
听起来这事儿更能说明一件事：让外行来决定专业技术层面的东西，简直是个馊主意。
如果那个领导还在控制别人的饮食，那我一点儿也不奇怪，毕竟导致动物死亡和氧气含量下降的那些决定，估计也是他拍板的。
15 赞2025/6/19
When I look at the concept of a bio dome it seems like scale is incredibly important for a closed system like this. It makes me think of how large fish tanks tend to be more stable than small ones. My guess is that effective bio domes would have to be enormous to capture the complexity of nature and small imbalances would create cascading failures.
我琢磨了一下生物圈的构想，感觉对这种封闭系统来说，规模简直太关键了。这让我想起养鱼，大鱼缸通常比小鱼缸稳定得多。我觉得吧，要真想搞出靠谱的生物圈，规模得做得极大，才能容纳自然的复杂性，不然一点小失衡都会引发连锁反应，导致系统全崩。
45 赞2025/6/18
People were saying it was junk science from the get-go and the team inside did little to repair the reputation. There was some cheating going on- it was supposed to be sealed and self sufficient but not long into the program there was air exchanged, I forget the particulars but they tried to hush it up. Plus some human drama among the crew if I recall correctly.
当时从一开始就有人说这就是伪科学，而且里面的团队也没做啥来挽回名声。当时确实有猫腻——说好了是完全封闭、自给自足的，结果项目没进行多久就搞了通风换气，具体细节我忘了，反正他们当时想把这事瞒下来。而且如果我没记错的话，队员之间还有不少狗血的内部矛盾。
25 赞2025/6/19
They got caught on camera smuggling in McDonalds.
他们被人拍到偷偷叫麦当劳外卖了。
16 赞2025/6/18
It's not junk science they just didn't set up the parameters properly. Earth itself is a biodome.
这哪是伪科学啊，明明就是参数没设对。地球本身不就是一个巨大的生物圈吗。
17 赞2025/6/18
It was all good until these two showed up 
本来一切都挺好的，直到这俩货出现。
16 赞2025/6/17
I seem to remember the trees all broke in half/fell over because there was no wind swaying to strengthen them.
我好像记得那里的树全都折断或者倒了，因为里面没有风吹晃，树干根本长不结实。
81 赞2025/6/18
There's an excellent documentary on this called Spaceship Earth
有部关于这个的纪录片挺棒的，叫《太空船地球》。
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There's an excellent documentary on this called Biodome, buuuuuuuuuddy.
有部关于这个的纪录片很带劲，叫《生物圈》，兄台了解一下。
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Freeee mahi mahi if you will
这波简直是免费的“鲯鳅鱼”大餐（随便吃），爽歪歪。
41 赞2025/6/17
Ok but imagine how wonderful it would be to be in a biosphere right now and have no idea what was going on in the outside world.
行吧，但你能想象吗？如果现在能待在一个生物圈里，完全不用管外面的世界乱成什么样，那得有多爽。
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And they made a whole movie about it! What a wild ride! 
而且他们还为此拍了整整一部电影！过程简直疯狂到不行！
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VIVA LOS BIO-DOME!
生物圈万岁！
23 赞2025/6/18
And then they got busted leaving and entering multiple times to get supplies. 🤣
结果后来他们被逮到了，因为为了搞点补给，进进出出了好几次。🤣
16 赞2025/6/17
I remember the wikipedia article was a fun read I should go back and check it out.
我记得当初看维基百科那篇条目特别有意思，我得回去再刷一遍。
13 赞2025/6/19
On a road trip with my family we happened across this site and actually went on a tour around the outside while they were still living inside.
有次跟我家人公路旅行，刚好路过了这个地方，趁他们还在里面住的时候，我们还在外面转了一圈参观了一下。
11 赞2025/6/17
Definitely made some trouble in that bubble
在那个泡泡里绝对搞了不少事儿。
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Does anyone else remember reading about this in their Weekly Reader?
还有谁记得在《每周读者》（Weekly Reader）上看过这事儿吗？
7 赞2025/6/17
There’s a good Stuff You Should Know episode about this.
Stuff You Should Know 有一期播客专门讲过这个，挺不错的。
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Dr Lilith Sternan Crane was among them?
莉莉丝·斯特南·克雷恩医生（Dr. Lilith Sternan Crane）也在里面？
6 赞2025/6/19
Steve Bannon was involved in this.
史蒂夫·班农（Steve Bannon）还掺和过这事儿。
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Are they still there?
他们现在还在那儿吗？
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Making a filter
正在搞个过滤器。
4 赞2025/6/18
Inspiration for Big Brother
《老大哥》（Big Brother）的灵感来源啊。
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 The way I cannot read this without thinking about *Biodome.*
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Viva las Bio Dome!
生物圈万岁！
3 赞2025/6/17
Looks like an awesome Kraftwerk gig.
看来这场 Kraftwerk 的现场演出简直绝了。
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When I was in school in the UK c1998, I had a Simpsons comic book where I swear this was the story plot.
我 1998 年左右在英国上学那会儿，手里有本《辛普森一家》漫画，我敢发誓剧情就是这一出。