1974年，深濑昌久拍摄了他的妻子洋子。这张照片名为《洋子》
1974 年，深濑昌久（Masahisa Fukase）每天早上从东京公寓的窗户拍摄他的妻子洋子（Yōko Wanibe）去上班的样子。
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jeffykins9,620 赞2025/1/2
This is really sweet. And how fashionable are those outfits!
这也太甜了吧。而且这些穿搭也太时髦了！
Doromclosie2,552 赞2025/1/2
You could wear all ofcthis today and still look good
你就算今天把这一身穿出门，也绝对好看。
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semper_JJ2,137 赞2025/1/2
How dare you. I'll have you know my depression is only of the highest grade!
你居然敢这么说。我可告诉你，我的抑郁症那可是顶级配置的！
chargedmemery394 赞2025/1/2
Depression seller, I am going into battle and I need only your strongest depression
抑郁贩子，我要去打仗了，我只需要你最强劲的抑郁。
WithoutTheWaffle60 赞2025/1/2
My depression would kill you, Redditor. You cannot handle my depression.
我的抑郁会要了你的命，红迪老哥。你承受不住我的抑郁。
starker31 赞2025/1/3
Depression seller, I’m telling you right now I am going into battle and I need your strongest depression.
抑郁贩子，我跟你直说了吧，我要去打仗了，我需要你最强劲的抑郁。
bigboybeeperbelly184 赞2025/1/2
Please, friend, won't you step in and admire my wares? Artisanal, hand-crafted depressions to fit every occasion! Would you like to try a psychotic depression? Or perhaps a strong seasonal depression, sustainably sourced from the forests of Northern Canada? I can tell you we currently have an impressive discount on postpartum depressions to bring home to the missus, and you know what they say about a happy wife!
朋友，求你了，进来看看我的货吧？
纯手工打造、精雕细琢的抑郁症，适配各种场合！想试试精神分裂型抑郁吗？或者来点纯天然、源自加拿大北部森林的重度季节性抑郁？跟你透个底，咱们店里的产后抑郁目前正打折呢，带回去给你家那位正好，毕竟“老婆开心，全家顺心”，这道理你懂的！
lookslikethatguy93 赞2025/1/2
Khajit has depression if you have coin...
卡吉特有抑郁症，只要你出得起钱……
UserBelowMeHasHerpes29 赞2025/1/2
Take a look at my wares..
过来看看我的货吧……
RighteousHam23 赞2025/1/3
Is it ethically sourced?
这玩意儿来源合乎道德吗？
bigboybeeperbelly33 赞2025/1/3
Listen we can source it ethically or sustainably, depression can't be both
听着，我们要么讲道德，要么讲可持续，抑郁症可没法两全其美。
_G0H5T36 赞2025/1/3
penty17 赞2025/1/3
My depression is too strong for you, traveller.
旅行者，我的抑郁症道行太深，你扛不住的。
Gimpknee58 赞2025/1/2
The best depression, from the depression region of France.
最牛的起泡酒，产自法国的起泡酒产区。
byu7a65 赞2025/1/2
Dépression
起泡酒（Dépression）
UserBelowMeHasHerpes61 赞2025/1/2
It’s only depression if it comes from the depression region of France. Otherwise it’s just sparkling sadness.
只有产自法国起泡酒产区的才叫起泡酒。不然的话，那顶多就是“闪耀的忧伤”。
Usual-Lavishness839331 赞2025/1/3
Sparkling Whine?
闪闪发光的……牢骚（Sparkling Whine）？
technobrendo28 赞2025/1/2
fact sophisticated books alive slim governor one continue whole sharp
事实 复杂的 书本 活着的 苗条的 州长 一个 继续 整体 敏锐的
（注：原文为无逻辑的随机词汇堆砌，此处为直译。）
Canis_Familiaris233 赞2025/1/2
I used to work at an airport with a unique carpet and warm colors. They redid the entire airport and its been changed to various greys and whites. It's super cold and sterile now.
我以前在一家机场工作，那里的地毯很有特色，色调也很温馨。后来他们把整个机场翻新了一遍，换成了各种灰色和白色。现在看起来超级冷清，一点人情味都没有。
Slow_Manufacturer853225 赞2025/1/2
The loss of character in modern interior design only adds to the impression that we’re living in a dystopian depression hole 24/7. I miss seeing color and unique architecture before everything turned into cold gray squares
现代室内设计里个性的缺失，只会让人觉得咱们整天都生活在一个反乌托邦式的抑郁深坑里。我真怀念以前那些有色彩、有独特建筑风格的日子，不像现在，全变成冷冰冰的灰方块了。
Deeliciousness81 赞2025/1/2
Giving our built environments character comes with the unacceptable risk that it might foster the same in the populace
想让我们的建筑环境有点儿个性，就得承担一个“不可接受”的风险，那就是这可能会让生活在里面的人也变得有个性起来。
PickledDildosSourSex42 赞2025/1/2
_The Giver has entered the chat_
《记忆传授人》（The Giver）已加入群聊。
Rs9081 赞2025/1/2
This is a massive part of it. A LOT of people chased the "Apple look" of sleek modern design. As well as costing less money to use whites and greys and plastic vs wood and so on. Another aspect is input/output. My city has a lot of cafes and coffeehouses. But almost every one lacks "character". Because they're designed minimally and modern. No more couches for people to sit with their laptop for a few hours n sip coffee. Rent cost too much. So we need customers to get their coffee and scoot. Cozy atmospheres make customers sit around for longer. So everything is designed like a Chipotle to funnel customers out the door faster.
这绝对是核心原因之一。好多人都去追那种所谓的“苹果风”，也就是那种极简现代的设计。再说用白色、灰色和塑料材质，也比用木头之类的便宜多了。
还有个原因是店里的空间规划。我住的城市有很多咖啡馆，但几乎每家都缺了点“个性”，因为它们的设计全都是那种极简现代风。
店里再也没有那种能让人一边喝咖啡、一边带着笔记本电脑坐几个小时的沙发了。房租太贵，商家需要顾客买完咖啡赶紧走人。那种温馨舒适的氛围会让人想多待会儿，所以现在所有的店都设计得跟 Chipotle 快餐店似的，就为了让顾客赶紧滚蛋。
raggedsweater50 赞2025/1/2
The ironic part is that in the late 90s to early 2000s Apple was the company that added color and vitality to what was otherwise a drab and beige computer design.
最讽刺的是，在90年代末到21世纪初，苹果反而是那个给沉闷、米黄色的电脑设计注入色彩和活力的公司。
Rs9027 赞2025/1/3
Talkin about those lil colored IMacs? Or whatever they were. You're correct lol. But I think the Ipod really made people gush over the idea of homogenous designs. The whole "my razer looks like my hairbrush, toothbrush, toaster, fridge, car, and shoes" fashion style of "the future". And places took off with it. I'll never forget seeing every place roll out the same ass-destroying bar seats, no matter what the business was.
你是说那些彩色的小 iMac？还是别的什么玩意儿？你说得对哈哈。但我个人觉得，是 iPod 的出现才真正让大家开始迷恋那种“千篇一律”的设计风格。
就是那种“我的雷蛇鼠标看起来跟我家梳子、牙刷、烤面包机、冰箱、汽车和鞋子长得一模一样”的所谓“未来感”时尚风。然后所有店都跟风了。我这辈子都忘不了，当时不管什么店，全都清一色换成了那种坐着把屁股都要磨烂的高脚凳。
Proud_Error_8051 赞2025/1/2
Just look at Taco Bells and McDonald's now. It's like some shit from equilibrium.
看看现在的塔可钟（Taco Bell）和麦当劳吧。简直就像《撕裂的末日》（Equilibrium）里那种鬼地方。
DollFaceDisciple68 赞2025/1/2
yup...McDonalds was like going to a theme park when I was a kid. Now it's like "McGet yer shit n get out".
可不是嘛……我小时候去麦当劳感觉就像去主题乐园一样。现在倒好，感觉就像是“赶紧拿了你的破玩意儿滚蛋”。
outinthecountry6641 赞2025/1/3
don't get me started on malls. sometimes a cold wind blows through me when i think about all the malls....that was an AMUSEMENT park to us. being called a mall punk....the smell of the perfume counter, the food court. who knew these would be places of reverie when you think back.
别跟我提商场的事。有时候想到那些商场，我心里就一阵发凉……那对我们来说可是个游乐场啊。被人叫“商场混混”（mall punk）……香水柜台的味道，美食广场的热闹。谁能想到这些地方如今回忆起来，竟成了让人感伤的幻梦。
turdferguson389148 赞2025/1/2
I remember as a kid in the 80s thinking so much of the stuff still left over from the 70s was terrible. Then it just seemed dated. Everything was brown and orange and smelled like nicotine. That's how grandma's house looked. The future of the 80s was brighter and more modern looking to me. But I guess that's how you will see it when it's only just out of date and hasn't had time to be reappreciated.
我记得小时候在80年代，觉得好多70年代留下来的破玩意儿简直糟糕透顶。后来就觉得它们过时了。什么东西都是棕色加橙色的，还一股尼古丁味儿。我奶奶家就是那副德行。对我来说，80年代的未来感更亮堂、更现代。但我想，当你正处在刚过时、还没来得及被重新欣赏的那个节骨眼上时，你眼里的东西大概就是这样吧。
WholesomeThingsOnly127 赞2025/1/2
Everyone except me, of course. Now if you excuse me I'm going back to sleep for another 14 consecutive hours in my extremely messy and neglected apartment.
当然了，除了我之外所有人都是这么想的。现在请失陪一下，我要回我那乱得像猪窝一样、无人问津的公寓，再接着睡上个14小时。
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And here I was feeling shameful. Depression is great, my back hurts constantly.
本来我还觉得挺惭愧的。抑郁症真是棒极了，我这腰杆子还天天疼得要命。
kapitankrunch32 赞2025/1/2
fuck I felt that lol
卧槽，太扎心了哈哈。
jeff6181327 赞2025/1/2
The 70s really sucked a lot of places two oil shocks, layoffs in the Midwest, American companies failing to keep up with international competition from japan, the 1970s also just smelled bad All the cars were carbureted and The exhaust smelled like uncombusted gasoline a lot of which had lead in it. Not to mention so many of the marriages from the 1950s and '60s were falling apart. Divorce rates were skyrocking.
70年代那会儿好多地方真的烂透了，两次石油危机，中西部地区大规模裁员，美国企业在国际竞争中完全干不过日本。而且70年代闻起来也一股臭味，那时的车全是化油器引擎，排气管喷出来的尾气全是没烧尽的汽油味，里面还掺着铅。更别提50和60年代结的那些婚，到那时全都支离破碎了，离婚率简直飙升。
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TuvixWillNotBeMissed28 赞2025/1/2
You are the kobe beef of depression
你简直是抑郁界的顶级神户牛排（高端得离谱）。
Screwqualia43 赞2025/1/2
So it seems. I wonder why? \*resumes scrolling\*
看起来确实如此。真搞不懂为什么？
\*继续刷手机\*
slimeddd35 赞2025/1/2
Plenty of people still dress like this lmao I see it nearly every day. How is the world less progressive than it was in the *70s*?
现在还有大把的人这么穿，笑死我了，我几乎每天都能见到。这世界怎么反而还没70年代进步了？
Zurble39 赞2025/1/2
When you comment on reddit you have to remember that you're on reddit.
在红迪（reddit）上评论的时候，你得时刻记住这儿可是红迪。
slimeddd28 赞2025/1/2
People really just say anything on this site and think they ate lol
这网站上的人真是啥话都敢说，还觉得自己特牛逼，笑死。
HighTurning46 赞2025/1/2
In the 70s my parents lived in a pretty rural town in a third world country and somehow every weekend there was a band having a dance at the towns saloon. The bands were almost all covers but shit was good, every town had their own band and they would iterate through. Nowadays finding a live band in my town with 20x the amount of people is damn near impossible. I talk with my father and he says that the golden days of music are gone, even when now making producing music is way easier and there are a whole bunch more of music being made today.
七十年代我爸妈住在一个第三世界国家挺偏的农村小镇，不知道怎么回事，每个周末镇上的酒馆都有乐队演出办舞会。那些乐队基本都是翻唱，但效果真的绝了，每个镇都有自己的乐队，他们还会轮流串场。反观现在，我住的这个城镇人口是那时的二十倍，想找个现场乐队简直难如登天。
我跟我爸聊过这事，他说音乐的黄金时代已经一去不复返了，尽管现在制作音乐容易多了，产出的音乐数量也多得惊人。
strawberrimihlk256 赞2025/1/3
Not really sweet when you hear how she described his obsession with photographing her, just like he did his first wife who he photographed miscarrying. “In the 10 years that we lived together, he only looked at me through the lens of a camera, and the photographs he took of me were unmistakably depictions of himself” Fukase confessed in 1982, he became plagued by the paradox of “being with others just to photograph them “there were moments of stifling dullness, interspersed with violent and almost suicidal outbursts of excitement”
说实话，当你听到她是怎么描述他那种对拍摄她的执念时，这事儿一点都不甜，这就跟他对他第一任妻子的做法如出一辙——他甚至拍下了她流产时的样子。
“我们在一起生活的十年里，他仅仅是通过镜头看我，他拍下的那些关于我的照片，其实本质上都是他自己的写照。”
深濑昌久在1982年曾坦言，他深陷于“为了拍摄他人而与他人在一起”这种悖论的折磨之中。
“生活中总是充斥着令人窒息的沉闷，偶尔夹杂着近乎自毁般的、暴烈又狂躁的兴奋瞬间。”
fuk_rdt_mods82 赞2025/1/3
Ha, he would have been a model husband for these instagram chicks who are obsessed with pictures
哈，要是给现在这些沉迷拍照的 Instagram 网红当老公，他简直就是模范人选。
losenkal2338 赞2025/1/3
I think it’s not the same!! Influencers have their own precise vision based on what they’re marketing or promoting at the given time, and request photography work which reflects that—Fukaze imposed his own personal view of his ‘muses’ onto them and the rest of the world, that even now knows them through him. It would be incompatible with the entrepreneurial vision of an influencer in most cases (unless of course a person viewed themselves or wanted to portray themselves exactly as Fukase did, but then its brands who employ influencers who would have the last word anyway)
我觉得这俩根本是一码事！！网红们都有自己明确的构思，得根据当时在推销或推广的产品来定，拍出来的东西也得符合那个调性——而深濑（Fukase）则是把那种属于他个人对“缪斯”的滤镜强加在她们身上，甚至强加给全世界，搞得大家到现在对他人的认知都还是通过他的视角。这在大多数情况下，跟网红那种搞事业的思维逻辑根本就不兼容（当然，除非那人自己就想被打造成深濑镜头下的那种形象，但即便如此，最后拍板的也还是那些雇佣网红的品牌方）。
Niborus_Rex35 赞2025/1/3
It isn't that sweet. She begged him to stop after a while because he no longer saw her as a person, just a muse or art subject. They ended up splitting because of it, she felt incredibly dehumanized.
这事儿一点都不甜蜜。她后来求过他别再拍了，因为他看她时根本没把她当个人，纯粹就拿她当个缪斯或者艺术素材。他们最后分道扬镳就是因为这，她感觉自己被彻彻底底地物化、非人了。
thx1188128 赞2025/1/2
She left him because she said he could only love her through the lens. They split and the guy started taking pictures of crows. Something like that. It’s what I remember from the top of my head
她离开他是因为她说他只懂得透过镜头去爱她。他们分开了，然后那哥们儿就开始去拍乌鸦了。大概就是这么回事吧。我凭记忆能想起来的就这些。
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I know!!!! Such great fashion sense. She looks adorable in everything!
可不是嘛！！！！那时尚品味真的绝了。她穿什么都好看得要命！
Few-Log4694169 赞2025/1/2
Short marriage only 20 photos so 20 days. Looks like a love that lasted forever though.
婚姻挺短的，才20张照片，也就意味着20天吧。不过看起来那段感情像是持续了一辈子似的。
broohaha55 赞2025/1/2
Nope. She divorced him about 2-3 years later. IIRC he had three mariages, and Yoko Wanibe was his second marriage.
不，并不是。大概两三年后他们就离婚了。如果我没记错的话，他结过三次婚，Yoko Wanibe 是他的第二任妻子。
jonnystunads34 赞2025/1/2
He didn’t care for her outfits.
他一点儿也不喜欢她的穿搭。
bigmuffpie9218 赞2025/1/2
Unfortunately it didn't last.
可惜好景不长。
ikindapoopedmypants22 赞2025/1/2
I'm pretty sure she left him bc he could only show her love when he took pictures of her.
我很确定她离开他，就是因为他只有在给她拍照的时候才会表现出爱意。
strawberrimihlk19 赞2025/1/3
Same with his first wife who he photographed miscarrying
他前妻也一样，他当时居然还拍下她流产的样子。
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Seems like my kinda person. Love these.
感觉这人跟我挺像的。超爱这些照片。
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I wanna be friends with her!
我好想跟她做朋友啊！
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She left him because he "only saw her through the lens of his camera" didn't she? It wasn't a happy marriage unfortunately.
她是因为他“只透过镜头看她”才离开他的，对吧？可惜那段婚姻并不幸福。
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I want her entire wardrobe
我想把她整个衣橱都搬回家。
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That was my first thought also! Such expressive faces and poses.
我第一个想法也是这个！脸部表情和姿势都太有表现力了。
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I too wanibe friends with her
我也想和她做朋友。
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tell me these were taken last year... wouldn't doubt in the least. '74? WOW yeah, awesome!
快告诉我这些是去年拍的……我一点都不会怀疑。74年？哇哦，确实，太牛了！
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Yeah. I see her having fun hamming it up for the camera and all I can think is how lucky he is to be married to her.
是啊。看着她在镜头前尽情搞怪、出风头，我满脑子想的都是：他能娶到她真是太幸运了。
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These photos were taken when he came back to their hometown after he moved away from her, and they were basically separated. His wife felt like he was only with her for the photography, so she divorced him
这些照片是他搬走、两人基本分居后回到家乡时拍的。他妻子觉得他跟她在一起只是为了摄影，所以才跟他离了婚。
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That really puts the pictures in a different, much sadder, light.
这下再看这些照片，意义完全变了，真是让人唏嘘不已。
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Explains the expression she had in some of the photos. Had a very "do we really *need* to be doing this right now?" vibe when I saw them.
这下能解释她在那几张照片里的表情了。我当时看到那些照片，感觉她整个人的状态就是：“咱们现在非得搞这一出吗？”
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I thought those days were just mondays.
我还以为那种日子只有周一才有呢。
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“In the ten or so years of our marriage,” she wrote in 1973, “he has only seen me through the lens of a camera, never without”…Wow
“在我们结婚的这十年左右，”她在1973年写道，“他眼里的我始终隔着镜头，从来没正眼看过我本人”……哇塞。
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Oh snap
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I see what you did there. ಠ_ಠ
我看穿你的小把戏了。ಠ_ಠ
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Now look at the last picture. Her hiding behind the see thru umbrella
现在看最后一张图。她躲在那把透明雨伞后面。
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Tragic! What a sad ending…
惨！真是个悲伤的结局……
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It's gets sadder unfortunately. In 1992 he fell while out at his local bar and hit his head and would remain in a coma until his death in 2012. It is said that Yōko Wanibe, the ex-wife in these photos, came to visit him every month.
遗憾的是，事情变得更悲惨了。1992年，他在当地一家酒吧外摔倒磕到了头，随后陷入了昏迷，直到2012年去世。据说照片里的前妻蟹江洋子，每个月都会去探望他。
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After Yoko left him, Masahisa got a cat. After ten days the cat also left him.
洋子离开他之后，深濑昌久养了一只猫。结果过了十天，那只猫也离他而去了。
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I wonder if he has any photos from a morning where they got into a huge argument and she’s flipping him off
我在想，他有没有拍下过那种他们大吵一架，然后她对他竖中指的早晨的照片啊。
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That's why there's only 20 photos! Only taken on the good days
怪不得总共就只有 20 张照片！全都是挑日子拍的。
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I mean they pretty famously separated, in many of his later photos you can see she’s clearly upset
我的意思是，他们分居的事儿当时闹得挺大的，他后期拍的很多照片里都能看出来女方明显很不爽。
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They were basically separated when he took these photos. They had been having a lot of problems and he had been living in another apartment when he came back to his hometown and then began shooting these pics. She divorced him not long after.
他拍这些照片的时候，两人基本上已经分居了。当时他们矛盾重重，他回老家后一直住在另一套公寓里，然后才开始拍这些照片的。没过多久，女方就跟他离婚了。
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They divorced because husband was too obsessive
他们离婚是因为那男的占有欲太强了。
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It’s easy to be fun and vibrant when you only work 20 days a year.
一年只工作20天，当然容易活得又开心又充满活力咯。
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My wife said to me this morning..our new neighbor kisses his wife every morning when he leaves for work, why don't you do that..!?! Because I hardly know her, said I..
今天早上我老婆跟我说……咱们新邻居每天出门上班前都会亲他老婆一下，你怎么就不学学人家呢……！？！
我回她说：因为我跟她压根儿就不熟啊。
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HIYO!!!!
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I don't get no respect I tell ya..
我真是没得到半点尊重，我跟你讲……
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Jokes aside, my partner brought something similar up to me before. "Why dont you,*this* to me" "where's my kiss or hug" mind you i show plenty of affection. To the point of her starting to get concerned. And though there are many layers behind this, none of which i can assure you are negletctful, just normal human behavior of forgetfulness or i have other stuff on my mind or what have you. I simply asked, why dont you? You have the same ability to come up and hug and kiss me and shower me with affection all you want that i will gladly return to you. But why ask and never give? She hadn't thought about that one simple distinction. It nearly broke me becasue it made me feel like ignored her which was not the case. In fact she used to shirk me off when she got home from work because, in her words, "i would distract her from what she wanted to get done because if she came up to me she wouldnt want to leave that spot" lmao and it always put her in a bad mood. So i actually just thought she wanted to be left alone when she got home. So it was a lot of things but in the end communication smoothed it all out and we are good.
说正经的，我对象之前也跟我提过类似的事儿。“你为什么不对我做*这个*？”“我的亲亲抱抱呢？”但我发誓，我平时给的关爱真的不少，多到她甚至都开始担心我是不是有点“过度”了。这背后原因挺复杂的，但我敢保证绝对不是因为我忽视她，纯粹就是人都有健忘的时候，或者当时正心烦意乱什么的。我当时就直接问了：“那你为什么不主动点呢？”你完全可以自己过来抱我、亲我，给我铺天盖地的爱，我肯定也会乐呵呵地回应你啊。但为什么只知道索取而不付出呢？她之前还真没想过这么简单的道理。
这件事当时差点让我心态崩了，因为让我觉得好像我一直忽视她一样，可事实根本不是这样。甚至说实话，她以前刚下班回家时还会躲着我，用她的话说就是“如果她过来找我，就会被我分散注意力，耽误她干正事，而且一旦靠近我就不想走了”，笑死我了，搞得她自己心情反而不好。所以我一直以为她刚回家时就是想一个人静静。所以说这就是各种因素搅在一起，但好在最后通过沟通把问题全捋顺了，现在我们好着呢。
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to be fair, you should kiss your partner before you leave for the day...life is short and sometimes even shorter for not only ourselves but for our loved ones as well.
说句公道话，你出门前还是应该亲亲你对象……人生苦短，有时候对我们自己，乃至对我们心爱的人来说，生命可能比想象中还要脆弱。
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Hehehe
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She’s so fashionable!!!!!
I love everything she’s wearing!
她也太会穿了吧！！！！！
她身上穿的每一件我都爱死啦！
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Me too!!! I love every outfits
我也是！！！每一套搭配我都超爱。
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And look at that sidewalk!!
还有看那人行道！！
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This is so great!
这也太棒了吧！
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There is a not so great side of this. If you want to be blissfully unaware then don't read the article at oscarvangelderen.nl on the photographer. In this case it is probably good that the spam filter in this sub deletes comments with h t t p in them so there won't be any easily clickable links to the article but if you do want to read a little about the dark side of the story then you can copy and paste this incomplete link to your browser: oscarvangelderen.nl/post/Obsessive-Love--on-Masahisa-Fukase-love-lost-and-the-death-of-a-child-N48.html
不过这事儿也有不那么美好的一面。如果你想活在幸福的无知里，那就千万别去读 oscarvangelderen.nl 上那篇关于这位摄影师的文章。
在这种情况下，这个版块的垃圾邮件过滤器会删掉带有 h t t p 的评论，所以不会有那种一点就能跳转的链接，这反倒是件好事；但如果你非要了解这事儿背后阴暗的一面，你可以把下面这个不完整的链接复制粘贴到浏览器里看：
oscarvangelderen.nl/post/Obsessive-Love--on-Masahisa-Fukase-love-lost-and-the-death-of-a-child-N48.html
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Alright, so you aren’t gonna say *anything* else?
行吧，所以你打算就此闭口不谈，什么都不说了吗？
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Basically his wife left him after 13 years, he got depressed and photographed a bunch of ravens for a long time before getting remarried. Then he fell down some stairs in 1992 and suffered a traumatic brain injury before dying in 2012. It‘s a sad story, but not as dark as this comment made it out to be.
说白了就是他老婆跟他过了13年后甩了他，他抑郁了，拍了一大堆乌鸦拍了好久，后来又再婚了。再后来他在1992年滚下楼梯导致脑部受创，最后在2012年去世了。
这确实是个悲伤的故事，但没这评论里说得那么阴暗。
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Yeah, dude made it sound like the photographer was violently abusing his wife. Instead they had a bad break up.
对啊，那哥们儿说得好像这摄影师在暴力虐待他老婆一样。其实就是一段糟糕的分手而已。
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I have that book. The solitude of ravens. Bought it in the 80’s from Barnes and nobles. Worth a little money now.
我有那本书，《乌鸦的孤独》。80年代在巴诺书店买的。现在还挺值钱的。
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ok i'll do it then >Fukase was obsessed with his (then) second wife, Yoko Wanibe, taking pictures of her all of the time - until she left him, after a relationship which lasted for thirteen years. Fukase was sad beyond belief and returned to the village where he grew up, and while traveling, took an endless amount of photographs of ravens (he did so for years, until, as he once stated, became one himself). > ...“The Incurable Egoist,” which is also the title of an article written by Fukase's ex-wife Yoko for the 1973 supplement to *Camera Mainichi* . In the article, she states that “The photographs that he took of me unmistakably depicted Fukase himself,” showing that no matter what appeared before Fukase's lens, he was always looking into himself, using his subjects as way of symbolizing the nature of his existence . Yoko also said about the time they spent together (from 1963 till 1976), that there were moments of “suffocating dullness interspersed by violent and near suicidal flashes of excitement." from what i could understand, he only saw her as a muse, not a real person.
行，那我就来翻译一下。
> 深濑当时对他（当时的）第二任妻子洋子迷得不行，老是抓拍她——直到她离开了他，毕竟这俩人在一起都十三年了。深濑当时简直伤心欲绝，跑回了他长大的那个村子，在旅途中拍了无穷无尽的乌鸦（他拍了好几年，直到他说过的那样，他自己都快成一只乌鸦了）。
> ……“不可救药的利己主义者”，这也是深濑的前妻洋子为《每日摄影》1973年增刊写的一篇文章的标题。在那篇文章里，她说“他拍我的那些照片，其实拍的完完全全就是深濑他自己”，这说明不管深濑的镜头前有什么，他其实永远是在审视内心，把拍摄对象当成了象征他自身存在本质的工具。
> 洋子还评价了他们在一起的那段日子（从1963年到1976年），说那是“令人窒息的沉闷，偶尔穿插着暴力且近乎自毁的兴奋时刻”。
> 就我个人的理解，他只把她当成缪斯，而不是一个活生生的人。
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Long story short: They broke up, Fukase began drinking alcohol heavily and taking a lot of photographs of ravens. After a night of drinking, he fell down some stairs and suffered a traumatic brain injury, which put him in a coma for the rest of his life, passing away in 2012.
长话短说：他们分手后，深濑开始酗酒，还拍了大量的乌鸦。有次喝多了，他从楼梯上摔下去，脑部受了重伤，从此陷入昏迷，直到2012年去世，余生都没再醒过来。
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They actually ended up divorcing because Yoko (his wife) was convinced that he only married her for photography sake.
说真的，他们最后离婚是因为洋子（他妻子）认定他娶她纯粹就是为了搞摄影。
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I looked this up after reading your comment. Her reason and response, in my view, is not only beyond poetic, but so true of lots of relationships.... >Yoko left Fukase soon after these pictures were made and cited photography as a barrier that came between them. *“In the ten or so years of our marriage,”* she wrote in 1973, *“he has only seen me through the lens of a camera, never without.* ***And in fact what he saw through the lens was not me, but nothing other than himself.”*** His first wife felt the same: * **Yukiyo Kawakami:** Fukase took many photographs of his first wife, including some of her while she was experiencing a miscarriage. This obsession with preserving moments was a factor in their divorce. * **Yōko Wanibe:** Fukase's second wife, who he was married to from 1964 to 1976. Wanibe was Fukase's main subject, and he photographed her every day from their apartment window in Tokyo. Their marriage was challenging, and Wanibe left Fukase in 1976. Fukase's depression after their divorce led him to begin photographing ravens. He published this series under the title Karasu (Ravens) in 1986.
看了你的评论我特意去查了一下。依我看，她给出的理由和回应不仅充满诗意，而且简直精准概括了许多亲密关系……
>这些照片拍完没多久，洋子就离开了深濑，并指出摄影成了横亘在他们之间的一道隔阂。她曾在1973年写道：“在我们结婚的十年左右时间里，他看我时总是隔着镜头，从来没有摘下过。**而且说实话，他在镜头里看到的根本不是我，不过是他自己罢了。**”
他的第一任妻子也有同感：
* **川上幸代：** 深濑为他的第一任妻子拍过很多照片，甚至包括她流产时的一些影像。这种对留存瞬间的执念，也是导致他们离婚的一个因素。
* **部洋子：** 深濑的第二任妻子，两人于1964年至1976年间维持着婚姻关系。洋子是深濑的主要拍摄对象，他每天都从东京公寓的窗户拍她。他们的婚姻生活充满了挑战，洋子最终在1976年离开了他。离婚后，深濑陷入抑郁，随后开始拍摄乌鸦。1986年，他将这组作品结集出版，名为《鸦》。
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Damn. An important lesson on not taking a photograph for the whole picture. It's easy to look at stuff like Instagram and believe you're seeing more than just the blank spots your mind is filling in within people's lives. They are great photographs though.
真绝了。这给我们上了一堂重要的人生课：别把照片当成事情的全貌。现在人们很容易看着Instagram之类的社交媒体，就以为自己窥见了他人生活的全貌，殊不知那其实只是你脑补出来的空白罢了。
不过，这些照片拍得确实牛逼。
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> An important lesson on not taking a photograph for the whole picture Maybe I'm the crazy one, but she looked incredibly unhappy in a lot of these photos.
> 别把照片当成事情的全貌
可能是我疯了吧，但在我看来，她在这些照片里显得极其不快乐。
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12 and 13 tell a lot
12和13真的说明了很多问题。
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Later, all of the ravens also left him.
后来，所有的乌鸦也都离他而去了。
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They cited his obsession with photography as being the reason why.
他们说原因就是他太痴迷于摄影了。
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:) Yeah, I looked up some of his photographs. He also has another book, his last one: **The Solitude of Ravens.** I'm hoping to find it at the library. To me, that title seems to suggest the loneliness he must have felt, even though he was around people..... 
:)
没错，我搜了搜他的一些摄影作品。他还有另一本书，也就是他的最后一本：《乌鸦的孤独》（The Solitude of Ravens）。
我希望能去图书馆找找看。对我来说，这个标题似乎暗示了他内心深处的那种孤独感，即便他当时身边并不缺人……
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As I clicked through the photos, it seemed to me that in many, if not most, she did not look at all pleased. I did not know if it had to do with being photographed, or if she was having a bad day, but many of them seem to me to be a response to being photographed.
我翻看这些照片时觉得，虽然不敢说全部，但至少大部分照片里，她看起来一点都不高兴。我不知道这是因为被拍照让她不爽，还是她当时心情不好，但我觉得很多照片里的神情，都是在对“被拍照”这件事做出回应。
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Not surprised. After a while she probably asked herself why she was the only one going to work in the morning.
一点也不意外。过了一阵子，她估计也在纳闷，为什么每天早上只有她一个人在去上班的路上。
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Not sure how successful he was at the time, but it wouldn't be unreasonable for a professional photographer having a drastically different work schedule...
不确定他当时到底有多成功，但对于一个专业摄影师来说，工作时间安排得完全不同，这也没什么不合理的……
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Yeah, and back then it was really a professional skill. I mean obviously it can still be today, but even knowing how to operate a camera to get good shots was a big deal then. Today the software and automatic lenses make it pretty idiot-proof. Back then it was easy to waste an expensive roll of film and have no idea until you got it back.
对啊，而且在那会儿，这绝对是个专业活儿。我的意思是，虽然现在肯定也还是，但当时光是懂得怎么操作相机去拍出好照片，就已经是件了不得的事了。现在有了各种软件和自动镜头，操作起来简直傻瓜都能上手。以前的话，随随便便就能浪费掉一卷昂贵的胶卷，而且在拿到冲洗出来的照片之前，你根本不知道拍成了什么样。
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For real?
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Yep then he started only photographing ravens
没错，然后他就开始只拍乌鸦了。
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This is true.
确实。
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Can confirm. source: am raven.
本人证实。
来源：我是渡鸦。
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What makes a man say screw it, only ravens ?
到底是什么让一个男人说出“去他的，只能选渡鸦”这种话的？
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Nevermore
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She only worked 20 days in 1974? SWEET!
她1974年居然只干了20天活？爽翻了！
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And he didn't work at all. DOUBLE SWEET!
而他根本就没干活。爽上加爽！
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I haven't had to work at all so far this year!
我今年到现在压根儿就没干过活！
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The Japanese are well known as a nation of slackers without work ethics.
日本人可是出了名的懒汉民族，一点职业道德都没有。
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Does anyone have an interview on her? I've wanted to know her story so bad, but there's not much info, the only thing I've found is the “suffocating dullness interspersed by violent and near suicidal flashes of excitement” quote and her visits to him while he was comatose.
有人看过她的访谈吗？我超级想了解她的故事，但网上没啥资料，我唯一找到的就是那句“在窒息般的枯燥中，偶尔穿插着近乎自毁的激烈刺激”，还有她在他昏迷时去探望他的事。
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Man that sounds deeper than I expected
妈呀，这听起来比我预想的深刻多了。
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Oh, she’s feral - I love it!
噢，她简直野性十足——我太爱了！
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I love her energy
我好喜欢她的这种能量。
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So I did some reading on this because I wanted to see the other pictures as I was sure there would be more and it doesn’t end happily “In 1992, Fukase suffered traumatic brain injury from a fall down the steep steps of his favourite bar—Nami—in the Golden Gai area of Shinjuku, Tokyo. This injury left him in a coma, which he would remain in until his death in 2012” 😭😭😭😭😭 RIP
所以我特地去查了查这件事，因为我想看其他的照片，我当时确信肯定还有更多，但结果并不美好。
“1992年，深濑因从他最爱的酒吧——位于东京新宿黄金街的‘Nami’——那陡峭的台阶上摔下而遭受了严重的脑损伤。这次伤害让他陷入了昏迷，直到2012年去世前，他都没能醒过来。”
😭😭😭😭😭 愿他安息。
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By the outfits, he was married 11 days….
看这穿搭，感觉他婚才结了11天……
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Who has a new outfit for every single day of the year? Lol
到底谁能做到一年365天每天都穿新衣服啊？笑死。
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She’s so alive. Love the pics
她也太有生命力了。超喜欢这些照片。
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Welp I’m in love with this woman now.
哎，我现在彻底爱上这个女人了。
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50 years ago now…
那会儿已经是50年前的事儿了……
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They got a divorce around 1980.
他们大概在1980年左右离的婚。
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Sad Yoko left Fukase soon after these pictures were made and cited photography as a barrier that came between them. “In the ten or so years of our marriage,” she wrote in 1973, “he has only seen me through the lens of a camera, never without"
难过。
在这些照片拍完没多久后，洋子就离开了深濑，并称摄影成了横亘在他们之间的障碍。她在 1973 年写道：“在我们结婚的那十年左右，他看我时永远都隔着镜头，从来没有真正地看过我。”
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makes sense. The modern equivalent I guess is someone constantly posting to social media, where the whole relationship is a photoshoot for it. Fukase may have been more of an artist about it, but from the perspective of the model it isn't a lot different
说得通。我觉得这就像现代版的有人总是把生活发到社交媒体上一样，整段关系在那个人眼里就是为了拍照营业。深濑或许更像个艺术家，但从模特的角度来看，其实也没啥两样。
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Camera Buff IRL
现实生活中的“摄影狂魔”。
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Her fits are so cute and her baby hairs??? Omg, she's darling!
她的穿搭太好看了，还有那小碎发？？？天呐，她简直是个小甜心！
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Damn this photographer fell down the steps in front of a bar, hit his head, and was in a coma for 20 years before he died. What a nightmare
卧槽，这个摄影师当时在一家酒吧门前摔下台阶，撞到了头，昏迷了20年之后才去世。简直是场噩梦。
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If Miranda Cosgrove was asian
如果米兰达·卡斯格拉夫是亚裔的话。
16 赞2025/1/2
This reminds me of seeing my wife off for work from our third story apartment. It’s been a few years but I remember spying and watching her reactions when she’d discover I had scraped off her car or left her a note. I hate to see her leave but I loved to watch her go.
这让我想起以前从三楼公寓送老婆去上班的情景。虽然那已经是好几年前的事了，但我还记得当时偷偷观察她发现我帮她刮掉车窗积雪、或是看到我留给她的字条时那种反应。我舍不得她走，但我就是爱看她离去的背影。
14 赞2025/1/3
I see so many comments on what shes wearing, how cute she is...do you see the emotions playing out through the photos? She starts out playful and excited then becomes more reserved, you can see when she stops smiling and how her face changes by the long emotions, by the end shes literally hiding under an umbrella.... A picture is worth a thousand words. Is it just cute and fashionable or is there more to it?
我看到好多评论都在说她穿得怎么样，说她有多可爱……难道你们就没看到照片里流露出的情绪吗？她一开始俏皮又兴奋，后来变得愈发内敛，你能看出她是什么时候停止微笑的，也能从那漫长延伸的情绪里看到她脸上的变化，到最后她简直都要躲到伞底下了……一张照片胜过千言万语。这真的只是可爱时尚那么简单吗，还是说背后另有深意？
13 赞2025/1/2
I want all of her clothes
我想要她穿的所有衣服。
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She's not THE Yoko. She's just a Wanibe
她可不是“那个”大野洋子，她纯粹就是个想红的冒牌货。
11 赞2025/1/2
She seems fun. But seriously, I can see the photographer's fascination, she's crazy photogenic and expressive
她看着倒是挺有意思的。
但讲真，我能理解摄影师为啥被她迷住，她真的太上镜了，表情也特别灵动。
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The many moods of a woman
女人变幻莫测的百变情绪。